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		<title>By: Debating subway map form and function :: Second Ave. Sagas</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-121187</link>
		<dc:creator>Debating subway map form and function :: Second Ave. Sagas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 06:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] KickMap, which first came to my attention back in 2007 and is now available in app form for iPhones, tries to solve those problems. Jabbour&#8217;s map [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] KickMap, which first came to my attention back in 2007 and is now available in app form for iPhones, tries to solve those problems. Jabbour&#8217;s map [...]</p>
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		<title>By: With service changes, MTA refreshes its map :: Second Ave. Sagas</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-80039</link>
		<dc:creator>With service changes, MTA refreshes its map :: Second Ave. Sagas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 05:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] time as any to redesign its familiar map. While the authority hasn&#8217;t gone so far as to adopt Eddie Jabbour&#8217;s Kick Map or re-embrace Massimo Vingelli&#8217;s masterpiece, the MTA has refreshed the map. It now features [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] time as any to redesign its familiar map. While the authority hasn&#8217;t gone so far as to adopt Eddie Jabbour&#8217;s Kick Map or re-embrace Massimo Vingelli&#8217;s masterpiece, the MTA has refreshed the map. It now features [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-57123</link>
		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best map was the version previous to the current version, around 1979 to 1998. I realize it&#039;s essentially the same as the current one (same designer, even?) but the graphics (and the colors) seem crisper and most importantly, it&#039;s smaller and doesn&#039;t have all those bus transfer boxes which are the worst feature of the current map. Those boxes make the map too big and cluttered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best map was the version previous to the current version, around 1979 to 1998. I realize it&#8217;s essentially the same as the current one (same designer, even?) but the graphics (and the colors) seem crisper and most importantly, it&#8217;s smaller and doesn&#8217;t have all those bus transfer boxes which are the worst feature of the current map. Those boxes make the map too big and cluttered.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Men&#8217;s Vogue calls on Vignelli for a long-awaited update</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-34756</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Men&#8217;s Vogue calls on Vignelli for a long-awaited update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] map, as I&#8217;ve discussed in the past and Tina Kelley explored yesterday on City Room, was controversial from the moment it made its its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] map, as I&#8217;ve discussed in the past and Tina Kelley explored yesterday on City Room, was controversial from the moment it made its its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tomás</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-2961</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomás</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also loved the Vignelli map! (It&#039;s the first one I remember). But certainly, it didn&#039;t show the distances with accuracy, and I find the current map really good for this matters. Anyway, people from outside New York find the current maps really great and recognizable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also loved the Vignelli map! (It&#8217;s the first one I remember). But certainly, it didn&#8217;t show the distances with accuracy, and I find the current map really good for this matters. Anyway, people from outside New York find the current maps really great and recognizable!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the current map, Im a realist. I like things on maps built as close as possible to scale, while still maintainting a good look for people with bad eyes. One might be able to make it better but the one proposed there should be for seinor citzens only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the current map, Im a realist. I like things on maps built as close as possible to scale, while still maintainting a good look for people with bad eyes. One might be able to make it better but the one proposed there should be for seinor citzens only.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Vignelli map is nuts!  The G train station at Court Square and the E/V station at 23rd/Ely are a block apart and now connected with a free transfer and a moving sidewalk, but on that map it looks like they&#039;re miles apart, at least as far apart as the Court Square station is from the Metropolitan Avenue terminal on the M line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Vignelli map is nuts!  The G train station at Court Square and the E/V station at 23rd/Ely are a block apart and now connected with a free transfer and a moving sidewalk, but on that map it looks like they&#8217;re miles apart, at least as far apart as the Court Square station is from the Metropolitan Avenue terminal on the M line.</p>
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		<title>By: KidTwist</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>KidTwist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the Vignelli map. It&#039;s the map I used to learn my way around when I was a kid and it&#039;s still the mental image I consult when I&#039;m trying to decide how to get somewhere. Although I admit, I have been waiting a long time for that QJ train to show up. Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the Vignelli map. It&#8217;s the map I used to learn my way around when I was a kid and it&#8217;s still the mental image I consult when I&#8217;m trying to decide how to get somewhere. Although I admit, I have been waiting a long time for that QJ train to show up. Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...A good portion of them stare at or consult your map while on their journey...&lt;/i&gt;

I love the current map.  I would be very upset if they were to change it.

That interview was very interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;A good portion of them stare at or consult your map while on their journey&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I love the current map.  I would be very upset if they were to change it.</p>
<p>That interview was very interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Sugar Hill</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/03/designing-the-ideal-subway-map/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>Sugar Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G!  The G to Stillwell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G!  The G to Stillwell!</p>
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