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	<title>Comments on: Stewart Airport rail link just a waste</title>
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		<title>By: Alfred Beech</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-35574</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Beech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm all for adding rail connections to airports, but I think connections to closer airports should be done first. 

I vote for a rail link to LaGuardia first. Getting there from my house in Bushwick requires a subway and two bus transfers over an hour and 15 minutes. 

After that, I'd vote for Islip, which is, as your commenters from the last article pointed out, right next to the the LIRR's Ronkonloma line. Unfortunately, the terminal is on the opposite side of the property, so you either have to pay a $5 shuttle charge, or take a scenic hour walk (don't ask) around airport property. It's about an hour from Penn Station to Islip, and I'd think the one-seat ride would be an attractive alternative to a subway ride with a transfer to the air train.

Only then would I be in favor of a rail connector at Stewart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for adding rail connections to airports, but I think connections to closer airports should be done first. </p>
<p>I vote for a rail link to LaGuardia first. Getting there from my house in Bushwick requires a subway and two bus transfers over an hour and 15 minutes. </p>
<p>After that, I&#8217;d vote for Islip, which is, as your commenters from the last article pointed out, right next to the the LIRR&#8217;s Ronkonloma line. Unfortunately, the terminal is on the opposite side of the property, so you either have to pay a $5 shuttle charge, or take a scenic hour walk (don&#8217;t ask) around airport property. It&#8217;s about an hour from Penn Station to Islip, and I&#8217;d think the one-seat ride would be an attractive alternative to a subway ride with a transfer to the air train.</p>
<p>Only then would I be in favor of a rail connector at Stewart.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting a better return on the Stewart Airport connection</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-35551</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting a better return on the Stewart Airport connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some folks in September noted that the Port Authority, operators of the airport, would be paying for the rail connection, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some folks in September noted that the Port Authority, operators of the airport, would be paying for the rail connection, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogking332</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-26169</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogking332</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THanks for your post. Good insight. 
Check out this site for good tips on airport parking at various metro airports.
http://www.airportparkingpro.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THanks for your post. Good insight.<br />
Check out this site for good tips on airport parking at various metro airports.<br />
<a href="http://www.airportparkingpro.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.airportparkingpro.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The MTA&#8217;s Capital future will not be free</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-5337</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The MTA&#8217;s Capital future will not be free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tracks on the Tappan Zee Bridge, Penn Station Access for Metro-North (and Moynihan Station), a Stewart Airport rail connection, and computer-based train controls to allow for a higher train frequency. These proposals are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tracks on the Tappan Zee Bridge, Penn Station Access for Metro-North (and Moynihan Station), a Stewart Airport rail connection, and computer-based train controls to allow for a higher train frequency. These proposals are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money for the project will be coming primarily from the PANYNJ.  Its not the MTA's money that is being used.  Considering that the PA just took over the least for Stewart, it is in its interest to maximize the asset.  Moreover, the MTA (and NJT) benefit by having a funding source, other than their normal capital budget, to pay for upgrades to the Port Jervis/Main/Bergen Lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money for the project will be coming primarily from the PANYNJ.  Its not the MTA&#8217;s money that is being used.  Considering that the PA just took over the least for Stewart, it is in its interest to maximize the asset.  Moreover, the MTA (and NJT) benefit by having a funding source, other than their normal capital budget, to pay for upgrades to the Port Jervis/Main/Bergen Lines.</p>
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		<title>By: epc</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>epc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JetBlue and Airtran have regularly scheduled service (mostly to Florida, Airtran also to Atlanta).

Delta, Northwest and USAirways have commuter service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JetBlue and Airtran have regularly scheduled service (mostly to Florida, Airtran also to Atlanta).</p>
<p>Delta, Northwest and USAirways have commuter service.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Jeter</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria Jeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's another airport in the metropolitan area??? I've never heard of Stewart International Airport, and I've lived here for 20 years. It certainly never comes up when you're searching for flights, what's the secret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another airport in the metropolitan area??? I&#8217;ve never heard of Stewart International Airport, and I&#8217;ve lived here for 20 years. It certainly never comes up when you&#8217;re searching for flights, what&#8217;s the secret</p>
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		<title>By: Corbot6000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corbot6000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow. That's what you get for not paying attention.

Jesus, what a boondoggle that was--serves as yet another against lobbyist-driven privatization.

Thanks for keeping up on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow. That&#8217;s what you get for not paying attention.</p>
<p>Jesus, what a boondoggle that was&#8211;serves as yet another against lobbyist-driven privatization.</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping up on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/08/07/stewart-airport-rail-link-just-a-waste/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Corbot. Got the word spelled right in one place.

Anyway, your info on the privatization is wrong. It was privatized but that was a huge disaster and a few years back PANYNJ voted to take over the lease. They'll assume control of Stewart before the end of the year. That's one of the reasons why the MTA is thinking about this rail link again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Corbot. Got the word spelled right in one place.</p>
<p>Anyway, your info on the privatization is wrong. It was privatized but that was a huge disaster and a few years back PANYNJ voted to take over the lease. They&#8217;ll assume control of Stewart before the end of the year. That&#8217;s one of the reasons why the MTA is thinking about this rail link again.</p>
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		<title>By: Corbot6000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corbot6000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. It's Port Jervis not Jarvis, just so you know.

2. The MTA has already secured some federal funds for the rail link through the Safe, Accountable, Flexible, and Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users (SAFETEA-LU) back in mid-2005.

Here, a bit from a Sen. Schumer press release: "Senators Schumer and Clinton also secured Congressional authorization in the bill that will enable the MTA to pursue federal funds in future appropriations bills toward the future design and construction of a direct rail link to Stewart International Airport. The 'New Start' designation allows the MTA and other project leaders to purse initial design and alternative analysis, kick starting the project and putting it line to receive significant federal funding in the future. Stewart Rail Access would connect Metro-North station would involve capacity improvements on Metro-North’s Port Jervis Line from Suffern to Salisbury Mills, construction of an extension of the railroad into the airport from that point of the Port Jervis Line, construction of a new station(s) at the Airport, a new rail yard and purchase of needed rolling stock."

There has been major overhauls of just about every station from Suffern to Salisbury Mills (expanded parking lots, new light poles, shelters, ramps, etc.). I think it may be a result of the funding released by this bill.

3. It should also be noted that, unlike the three other metro airports, Stewart is privately owned and operated by a British company. Gov. Spitzer approved the privatization bid back in 2000 or so when he was Attorney General.

4. The proposed rail link has all the potential to be a colosal waste of limited resources. What the MTA should be doing is looking to improve the regional system through mesaures that benefit regular riders. This can be achieved by upgrading service on the Port Jervis and Pascack Valley lines (weekend service is pretty sparse--I know because I have to use to visit my parents) and researching the feasibility of trans-Hudson rail service in the Mid-Hudson region (possibly via the Tappan Zee Bridge).

Still, I cannot deny that, on some level, the rail spur to Stewart does make sense. Just looking at a map, one realizes that where the tracks loop west above Salisbury Mills, the airport lies only a few miles north. It must be tantalizing for those guys at Stewart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. It&#8217;s Port Jervis not Jarvis, just so you know.</p>
<p>2. The MTA has already secured some federal funds for the rail link through the Safe, Accountable, Flexible, and Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users (SAFETEA-LU) back in mid-2005.</p>
<p>Here, a bit from a Sen. Schumer press release: &#8220;Senators Schumer and Clinton also secured Congressional authorization in the bill that will enable the MTA to pursue federal funds in future appropriations bills toward the future design and construction of a direct rail link to Stewart International Airport. The &#8216;New Start&#8217; designation allows the MTA and other project leaders to purse initial design and alternative analysis, kick starting the project and putting it line to receive significant federal funding in the future. Stewart Rail Access would connect Metro-North station would involve capacity improvements on Metro-North’s Port Jervis Line from Suffern to Salisbury Mills, construction of an extension of the railroad into the airport from that point of the Port Jervis Line, construction of a new station(s) at the Airport, a new rail yard and purchase of needed rolling stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>There has been major overhauls of just about every station from Suffern to Salisbury Mills (expanded parking lots, new light poles, shelters, ramps, etc.). I think it may be a result of the funding released by this bill.</p>
<p>3. It should also be noted that, unlike the three other metro airports, Stewart is privately owned and operated by a British company. Gov. Spitzer approved the privatization bid back in 2000 or so when he was Attorney General.</p>
<p>4. The proposed rail link has all the potential to be a colosal waste of limited resources. What the MTA should be doing is looking to improve the regional system through mesaures that benefit regular riders. This can be achieved by upgrading service on the Port Jervis and Pascack Valley lines (weekend service is pretty sparse&#8211;I know because I have to use to visit my parents) and researching the feasibility of trans-Hudson rail service in the Mid-Hudson region (possibly via the Tappan Zee Bridge).</p>
<p>Still, I cannot deny that, on some level, the rail spur to Stewart does make sense. Just looking at a map, one realizes that where the tracks loop west above Salisbury Mills, the airport lies only a few miles north. It must be tantalizing for those guys at Stewart.</p>
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