Comments on: MTA finally addressing that whole ‘It’s too hot in the subways’ issue

By: Jimmy Ching Chang

Jimmy Ching Chang — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:14:04 +0000

Also,
by clean up the garbages on tracks,
MTA simply has to block the all track (which means , block the traffic)
This will toward the problems of many subway lines not working properly (which what MTA does very often now).

on the other hand, clean up garbage on platform will not required the traffic block.

By: Jimmy Ching Chang

Jimmy Ching Chang — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:06:25 +0000

you guys also forget
slide door also can prevent the suicide attempt or accidental issue as people who falling to the track. This is one of main reason sliding door become much more safer than old fashion NYC platform.

More garbage on platform is always better than more garbage on tracks.
Simply, platform is easier to clean up compare to track.

So waste more money ?
i don’t think so
i don’t think by continue spending tons of money to repair/clean up the track will be any where cheaper than cleaning the platform. (and the damage people can create to the track is way more harder to repair)

By: mg

mg — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:32:03 +0000

Plus, the subway cars’ doors open and close constantly and very rarely malfunction. Why would a similar door on a platform suddenly have dramatic, debilitating problems? It’s not as if sliding doors are new technology.

By: mg

mg — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:30:42 +0000

If a door did malfunction, people would have to use another door and I don’t see why the station manager wouldn’t eventually just manually open the malfunctioning leaf and leave it opened until it was repaired. Track fires cause far more nightmarish delays than any sliding door would… the safety and suicide prevention aspects are pretty strong as well.

By: Jason A

Jason A — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:51:16 +0000

Outfitting platforms with sliding doors would be an unfortunate waste of money. The MTA has enough problems with funding critical components of subway service. Other cities are able to support sliding doors because they do not toil under the same funding and management constraints as the MTA. Considering the hapless state of NYC Transit, the last thing the MTA can handle is any additional responsibility over maintaining something that can (and will) break. While the doors would keep trash off the tracks and help prevent fires, they’re not worth the inevitable nightmare scenario of malfunctioning sliding doors…

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By: wayne's world

wayne's world — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:30:26 +0000

Pumping cool air sounds like more energy will be spent. It’s time to cut back on use of energy, not increase it. Sure, the platforms are hot but we all manage to survive.

By: Benjamin Kabak

Benjamin Kabak — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:16:44 +0000

Hah. Gary, the dangers of relying on spell check. I need a copy editor for SAS.

By: Gary

Gary — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:15:01 +0000

“Booby” Cuza? I thought this was a family site!

Finally met Inglesby last night at CGNA.

I’ve got to get some of those heat-dissipating crickets for my apartment. I’m hoping to cross-breed them with humidity absorbing grasshoppers and make my fortune.

By: Benjamin Kabak

Benjamin Kabak — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:21:46 +0000

I assume what you mean is the MTA’s implementation of this solution will be flawed and break, kind of like their elevators and escalators, hardly groundbreaking technology.

Considering the focus of this blog is on the MTA and New York, that’s generally a safe assumption

This is an excellent technology solution to two very big problems – hot stations and trash on the tracks.

I hope you’re right. However, considering subway culture in New York, you’ll simply see more trash on the platforms and benches instead. Until something radical happens and the MTA figures out a way to change people’s attitudes, inconsiderate straphangers will continue to avoid the trash receptacle at all costs.

As for the JFK Airtrain mention, the platform size-to-ridership ratio for the Airtrain is nowhere near the same figure for the subway. There’s plenty of room there for doors.

And an example of a good solution would be? (Crickets)

Crickets would probably not be a good solution to the problem. I would recommend more tunnel-to-surface vents to release the hot air spewed by the trains’ air conditioners. I would look into air flow options. Trapping people on the platforms just doesn’t seem like a good idea to me even if it works in Hong Kong and Paris.

Then again maybe heat-dissipating crickets would be a better solution.