Comments on: With three new grades, MTA finally breaks the C slump http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:19:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Post: November 14th, 2007: ERS-2007-11-14 #94 | Elevator Radio Show Podcast http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-96278 Post: November 14th, 2007: ERS-2007-11-14 #94 | Elevator Radio Show Podcast Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:14:22 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-96278 [...] Shuts Down Elevators After Seattle Story Union Fire ASU Threatened Lives: Warnings Not Heeded MTA Breaks The C Slump 10 New Things To Do In An Elevator KONE To Start Engineering Center – India Emergency Egress [...] [...] Shuts Down Elevators After Seattle Story Union Fire ASU Threatened Lives: Warnings Not Heeded MTA Breaks The C Slump 10 New Things To Do In An Elevator KONE To Start Engineering Center – India Emergency Egress [...]

]]> By: Keith C. Edwards http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-30311 Keith C. Edwards Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:16:25 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-30311 I remember when there were no announcements. Let's return to those days. Everyone, fend for themselves. I know where I am going. Just get me there. If we hhad no announcemements, we would have a faster trip. I remember when there were no announcements. Let’s return to those days. Everyone, fend for themselves. I know where I am going. Just get me there. If we hhad no announcemements, we would have a faster trip.

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » Wouldn’t it B nice to do better than a C-minus? http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3953 Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » Wouldn’t it B nice to do better than a C-minus? Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:10:03 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3953 [...] sad to say, but that one B-minus grade was an aberration. The B train, the peak-hour conterpart to the Q in Brooklyn and the D in [...] [...] sad to say, but that one B-minus grade was an aberration. The B train, the peak-hour conterpart to the Q in Brooklyn and the D in [...]

]]> By: Julia http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3650 Julia Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:59:52 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3650 nd, I've had the same experience on the new 2/3/4/5 trains. The PA system seems pretty weak - at times, you can hear it turn on, but the conductor's voice comes through either totally garbled or as a very low murmur. Those jam-packed trains stop between stations all the time during rush hour, and it can be frustrating when you can't hear why. I guess if some people were really mad about that, it could have pushed down the score. And my guess on why the shuttle got a better grade: Tourists ride the shuttle! They haven't had time to get disgruntled yet. nd, I’ve had the same experience on the new 2/3/4/5 trains. The PA system seems pretty weak – at times, you can hear it turn on, but the conductor’s voice comes through either totally garbled or as a very low murmur. Those jam-packed trains stop between stations all the time during rush hour, and it can be frustrating when you can’t hear why. I guess if some people were really mad about that, it could have pushed down the score.

And my guess on why the shuttle got a better grade: Tourists ride the shuttle! They haven’t had time to get disgruntled yet.

]]> By: Post: November 14th, 2007: ERS-2007-11-14 #94 « The Elevator Radio Show Podcast http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3615 Post: November 14th, 2007: ERS-2007-11-14 #94 « The Elevator Radio Show Podcast Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:17:18 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3615 [...] Shuts Down Elevators After Seattle Story Union Fire ASU Threatened Lives: Warnings Not Heeded MTA Breaks The C Slump 10 New Things To Do In An Elevator KONE To Start Engineering Center - India Emergency Egress [...] [...] Shuts Down Elevators After Seattle Story Union Fire ASU Threatened Lives: Warnings Not Heeded MTA Breaks The C Slump 10 New Things To Do In An Elevator KONE To Start Engineering Center – India Emergency Egress [...]

]]> By: Good Grades for the S Train : SUBWAYblogger.com: Blog from the New York City Subway | Transit | MTA | News http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3448 Good Grades for the S Train : SUBWAYblogger.com: Blog from the New York City Subway | Transit | MTA | News Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:18:12 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3448 [...] How hard could it possibly be to run a train that has only one stop?  If you can’t manage to do that well, you need to find a new line of work.  It’s no shock to us that the S train was rated well. [...] [...] How hard could it possibly be to run a train that has only one stop?  If you can’t manage to do that well, you need to find a new line of work.  It’s no shock to us that the S train was rated well. [...]

]]> By: Scott http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3411 Scott Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:44 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3411 I tend to agree with ND. Without trying to profile conductors, it appears to me that the ones who speak poorer English (i.e. a stronger accent) are assigned to the 2 train, while those who speak more clearly are on the 3 train. Which, in my mind, is probably the right way to do it. Also, the R142's train's automated announcements about the next stop are played while the train is moving. Personally, I can hear it very clearly; but for some people, in particular those with poor hearing or hearing aids, it can be difficult to distinguish between the annoucement and the rumble of the train. Conductors on the older trains usually wait for the train to stop before speaking. I tend to agree with ND. Without trying to profile conductors, it appears to me that the ones who speak poorer English (i.e. a stronger accent) are assigned to the 2 train, while those who speak more clearly are on the 3 train. Which, in my mind, is probably the right way to do it.

Also, the R142′s train’s automated announcements about the next stop are played while the train is moving. Personally, I can hear it very clearly; but for some people, in particular those with poor hearing or hearing aids, it can be difficult to distinguish between the annoucement and the rumble of the train. Conductors on the older trains usually wait for the train to stop before speaking.

]]> By: nd http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3362 nd Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:57:42 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3362 The automatic announcements I've heard are loud and clear on the R-142s, but I've heard garbled live conductor announcements on them... If riders can’t hear those announcements, I’m inclined to believe that it's the conductors mouths — and not the trains — are at fault. The automatic announcements I’ve heard are loud and clear on the R-142s, but I’ve heard garbled live conductor announcements on them… If riders can’t hear those announcements, I’m inclined to believe that it’s the conductors mouths — and not the trains — are at fault.

]]> By: mg http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3180 mg Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:06:01 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3180 The 1 train still has room for more trains. But the other IRT lines are pretty much at capacity during rush hour. The MTA is looking at expanding service around rush hours and middays on all the IRT lines. The 1 train still has room for more trains. But the other IRT lines are pretty much at capacity during rush hour. The MTA is looking at expanding service around rush hours and middays on all the IRT lines.

]]> By: Marc Shepherd http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3154 Marc Shepherd Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:11:29 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/10/with-three-new-grades-mta-finally-breaks-the-c-slump/#comment-3154 Some of your comments about the Shuttle report card apply to other lines as well. All of the other IRT lines are at capacity, as well, and could not offer more service without substantial capital improvements. Some of your comments about the Shuttle report card apply to other lines as well. All of the other IRT lines are at capacity, as well, and could not offer more service without substantial capital improvements.

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