Comments on: MTA officials announce reduction in fare increases http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:16:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » Not too many calls from people who saw and said something were all that important http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-15097 Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » Not too many calls from people who saw and said something were all that important Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:00:26 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-15097 [...] More specifically, the numbers don’t quite add up. The MTA has claimed that 1944 people saw and said something. Police data but that figure closer to 109 in 2006 and 45 through early December 2007. That’s quite the difference, but, hey, we know how good the MTA is with counting. [...] [...] More specifically, the numbers don’t quite add up. The MTA has claimed that 1944 people saw and said something. Police data but that figure closer to 109 in 2006 and 45 through early December 2007. That’s quite the difference, but, hey, we know how good the MTA is with counting. [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » How Eliot Spitzer saved the cars and tourists while nailing the rest of us http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-6726 Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » How Eliot Spitzer saved the cars and tourists while nailing the rest of us Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:54:57 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-6726 [...] Spitzer strongly urged the MTA to keep the base fare at $2 and scale the back the hikes. The MTA obliged, and now we’re all worse off. Well, all of us except the whopping 14 percent of subway riders [...] [...] Spitzer strongly urged the MTA to keep the base fare at $2 and scale the back the hikes. The MTA obliged, and now we’re all worse off. Well, all of us except the whopping 14 percent of subway riders [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » With new plans unveiled, the fare hike honeymoon ends http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-5101 Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » With new plans unveiled, the fare hike honeymoon ends Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:09:49 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-5101 [...] Remember how excited New Yorkers were last week when the fare hike was seemingly rescinded? [...] [...] Remember how excited New Yorkers were last week when the fare hike was seemingly rescinded? [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » Specter of the 5¢ fare haunts the current fare hike debate http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4490 Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » Specter of the 5¢ fare haunts the current fare hike debate Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:56:44 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4490 [...] 2nd Ave. Subway History « MTA officials announce reduction in fare increases [...] [...] 2nd Ave. Subway History « MTA officials announce reduction in fare increases [...]

]]> By: Chris http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4460 Chris Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:18:31 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4460 Of course, that's what's so ridiculous about the fare hike debate in the first place. Nobody is arguing that the unlimited cards remain the same, even though that's what most subway riders use. Raising the base fare to $2.25 would really only affect visitors - not residents. In this case, the residents are bearing the entire brunt of the fare increase instead. Of course, that’s what’s so ridiculous about the fare hike debate in the first place. Nobody is arguing that the unlimited cards remain the same, even though that’s what most subway riders use. Raising the base fare to $2.25 would really only affect visitors – not residents. In this case, the residents are bearing the entire brunt of the fare increase instead.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4459 Benjamin Kabak Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:13:00 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4459 I think also it's a recognition of the fact that the average cost per ride to a subway rider is around $1.31. That's very low when you start comparing that fare to the fares of what the MTA considers to be our subway competitors. It's not a bad idea to raise those prices a bit if that exceedingly low discount is causing the MTA to hemorrhage money. I think also it’s a recognition of the fact that the average cost per ride to a subway rider is around $1.31. That’s very low when you start comparing that fare to the fares of what the MTA considers to be our subway competitors. It’s not a bad idea to raise those prices a bit if that exceedingly low discount is causing the MTA to hemorrhage money.

]]> By: Marc Shepherd http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4458 Marc Shepherd Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:08:52 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/mta-officials-announce-reduction-in-fare-increases/#comment-4458 Leaving the $2 base fare intact is largely symbolic. Regular riders seldom pay that amount anyway. If they're raising the price of unlimited-ride MetroCards, it's a fare increase nevertheless, albeit an increase that more easily flies under the radar. As you noted in one of the other posts, this announcement does not address the MTA's long-term structural deficit. It merely postpones the tough decisions for another day. But that's what politicans do. Leaving the $2 base fare intact is largely symbolic. Regular riders seldom pay that amount anyway. If they’re raising the price of unlimited-ride MetroCards, it’s a fare increase nevertheless, albeit an increase that more easily flies under the radar.

As you noted in one of the other posts, this announcement does not address the MTA’s long-term structural deficit. It merely postpones the tough decisions for another day. But that’s what politicans do.

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