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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily News pointing fingers in the wrong direction</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/spitzer-speaks-out-wrongly-against-the-fare-hike/#comment-36994</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily News pointing fingers in the wrong direction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is not a new story. In November, when Eliot Spitzer spoke out against the fare hike, I lambasted him for ignoring the financial realities of the MTA&#8217;s situation, and I wrote about how [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is not a new story. In November, when Eliot Spitzer spoke out against the fare hike, I lambasted him for ignoring the financial realities of the MTA&#8217;s situation, and I wrote about how [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Eliot Spitzer saved the tourists and screwed the rest of us</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/spitzer-speaks-out-wrongly-against-the-fare-hike/#comment-6725</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Eliot Spitzer saved the tourists and screwed the rest of us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the plan. Then, in an effort to bolster his flagging image, New York&#8217;s Gov. Eliot Spitzer strongly urged the MTA to keep the base fare at $2 and scale the back the hikes. The MTA obliged, and now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the plan. Then, in an effort to bolster his flagging image, New York&#8217;s Gov. Eliot Spitzer strongly urged the MTA to keep the base fare at $2 and scale the back the hikes. The MTA obliged, and now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The MTA&#8217;s Capital future will not be free</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/spitzer-speaks-out-wrongly-against-the-fare-hike/#comment-5277</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The MTA&#8217;s Capital future will not be free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With a price tag of $21.3 billion from 2005 to 2009, these projects and regular maintenance all cost a large chunk of change. Right now, the city and state are kicking in just 19 percent of that funding while the feds are throwing in 31 percent and the MTA through bonds and other funds sources is generating the rest. That 19 percent is up from 2 percent during the early years of this decade. No wonder the MTA is skeptical that the state and city will deliver on Spitzer&#8217;s promise of money. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With a price tag of $21.3 billion from 2005 to 2009, these projects and regular maintenance all cost a large chunk of change. Right now, the city and state are kicking in just 19 percent of that funding while the feds are throwing in 31 percent and the MTA through bonds and other funds sources is generating the rest. That 19 percent is up from 2 percent during the early years of this decade. No wonder the MTA is skeptical that the state and city will deliver on Spitzer&#8217;s promise of money. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Specter of the 5¢ fare haunts the current fare hike debate</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/spitzer-speaks-out-wrongly-against-the-fare-hike/#comment-4489</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Specter of the 5¢ fare haunts the current fare hike debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news flew fast and furious yesterday following the Spitzer press conference and the MTA&#8217;s announcement that they would be scaling back the fare hike. When the dust [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] news flew fast and furious yesterday following the Spitzer press conference and the MTA&#8217;s announcement that they would be scaling back the fare hike. When the dust [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: MTA to reduce fare hike</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/11/20/spitzer-speaks-out-wrongly-against-the-fare-hike/#comment-4447</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: MTA to reduce fare hike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2nd Ave. Subway History      &#171; Spitzer speaks out - wrongly - against the fare hike [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, I agree with some of what you say, but overall, until a better option is on the table. I&#039;ll support the fare hike.

There&#039;s no doubt, as I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/09/25/proposed-mta-fare-hike-the-worst-kind-of-regressive-tax/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two months ago&lt;/a&gt;, that the fare hike is a regressive tax that hits lower class people the hardest. Even a $3-$5 raise in the cost of a 30-day monthly is problematic for many people who rely on the subways. 

I agree with you that congestion pricing revenue should be used to fund mass transit. That being said, it will take at least a year after congestion pricing is implemented for the money to start flowing to the MTA. The city first has to cover the initial costs of installing a complex monitoring system for the congestion pricing.

I agree with you that the MTA needs funding from the city and state, and I&#039;m all on board for residential parking permits throughout the city. Why should people get to park for just a few dollars in hour in spots that could be churning out some serious revenue for the city?

But right now, the MTA needs a solution quickly to address rapidly growing budget deficits, and until Spitzer or someone else steps in with a plan that&#039;s ready to go, the fare hike is the only act-now plan. I don&#039;t like that this is our reality, but I have no choice but to support until something better that can be implemented right away is on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I agree with some of what you say, but overall, until a better option is on the table. I&#8217;ll support the fare hike.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt, as I wrote <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/2007/09/25/proposed-mta-fare-hike-the-worst-kind-of-regressive-tax/" rel="nofollow">two months ago</a>, that the fare hike is a regressive tax that hits lower class people the hardest. Even a $3-$5 raise in the cost of a 30-day monthly is problematic for many people who rely on the subways. </p>
<p>I agree with you that congestion pricing revenue should be used to fund mass transit. That being said, it will take at least a year after congestion pricing is implemented for the money to start flowing to the MTA. The city first has to cover the initial costs of installing a complex monitoring system for the congestion pricing.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the MTA needs funding from the city and state, and I&#8217;m all on board for residential parking permits throughout the city. Why should people get to park for just a few dollars in hour in spots that could be churning out some serious revenue for the city?</p>
<p>But right now, the MTA needs a solution quickly to address rapidly growing budget deficits, and until Spitzer or someone else steps in with a plan that&#8217;s ready to go, the fare hike is the only act-now plan. I don&#8217;t like that this is our reality, but I have no choice but to support until something better that can be implemented right away is on the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I have to disagree on the fare hike.  It&#039;s terrible policy, the worst type of regressive tax, the one way to guarantee you hit virtually all working class people in the pocket, while the wealthiest skate past.

Those who take taxis and black cars and drive all benefit from the mass transit system, which keeps untold thousands of lower income people off the streets, which is one reason I support congestion pricing.

But the way we need to fix the funding problem is with higher funding from the city and the state.  A dedicated funding stream from some form of congestion pricing, ranging from the Bloomberg plan to the Ketcham plan, is also necessary.  Adding in residential parking permits for adjacent neighborhoods would provide another income stream (permits and violations) for transit funding.

But at it&#039;s most basic, we have had a major policy failure that has been allowed to fester for years, and balancing the books on the backs of transit riders is the worst possible solution (other than bankrupting the MTA).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I have to disagree on the fare hike.  It&#8217;s terrible policy, the worst type of regressive tax, the one way to guarantee you hit virtually all working class people in the pocket, while the wealthiest skate past.</p>
<p>Those who take taxis and black cars and drive all benefit from the mass transit system, which keeps untold thousands of lower income people off the streets, which is one reason I support congestion pricing.</p>
<p>But the way we need to fix the funding problem is with higher funding from the city and the state.  A dedicated funding stream from some form of congestion pricing, ranging from the Bloomberg plan to the Ketcham plan, is also necessary.  Adding in residential parking permits for adjacent neighborhoods would provide another income stream (permits and violations) for transit funding.</p>
<p>But at it&#8217;s most basic, we have had a major policy failure that has been allowed to fester for years, and balancing the books on the backs of transit riders is the worst possible solution (other than bankrupting the MTA).</p>
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