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	<title>Comments on: MTA scrapping the bus arrival board project</title>
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		<title>By: PiosiliaMox</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-57329</link>
		<dc:creator>PiosiliaMox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gyncwaycliply</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-49117</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyncwaycliply</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gyncwaycliply</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-49067</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyncwaycliply</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gear problem puts the brakes on R160 delivery</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-29813</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gear problem puts the brakes on R160 delivery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year, we&#8217;ve seen stories about problems with the MTA&#8217;s security camera project and its bus arrival board project. We know that implementation of the arrival boards on the L line has been fraught with delays and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] year, we&#8217;ve seen stories about problems with the MTA&#8217;s security camera project and its bus arrival board project. We know that implementation of the arrival boards on the L line has been fraught with delays and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-23819</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which contractor did London use for its bus arrival boards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which contractor did London use for its bus arrival boards?</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When subway security and MTA technology collide</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-23526</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When subway security and MTA technology collide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this is a new technology and the MTA is involved. If you&#8217;ve read yesterday&#8217;s post, you can guess where this one is heading. According to a recent New York State Comptroller&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this is a new technology and the MTA is involved. If you&#8217;ve read yesterday&#8217;s post, you can guess where this one is heading. According to a recent New York State Comptroller&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-23403</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the MTA should review its contracts with Siemens and see if they can get some money back.  KC has intentionally delayed paying Siemens until they can the AVL system working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the MTA should review its contracts with Siemens and see if they can get some money back.  KC has intentionally delayed paying Siemens until they can the AVL system working.</p>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-23377</link>
		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>siemens is also behind the failed train arrival boards on the IRT lines. They should be banned from bidding on MTA projects ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>siemens is also behind the failed train arrival boards on the IRT lines. They should be banned from bidding on MTA projects ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so it was Siemens. That explains everything. They were also behind the CBTC system on the L train, the one that was supposed to have been in service in 2005 or so, but seems to have been postponed indefinitely after quite a lot of time and money spent on the MTA&#039;s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so it was Siemens. That explains everything. They were also behind the CBTC system on the L train, the one that was supposed to have been in service in 2005 or so, but seems to have been postponed indefinitely after quite a lot of time and money spent on the MTA&#8217;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: TG</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/05/mta-scraping-the-bus-arrival-board-project/#comment-23341</link>
		<dc:creator>TG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem the MTA currently faces is that it can&#039;t predict how long until a bus arrives, given its location.  In a traffic environment as complex and dynamic as NYC, it is understandably very difficult to make such predictions.   All it takes is one wheelchair boarding to throw a bus a minute or two off its previously-anticipated schedule.

The simple solution to this would be to display bus locations as distances, rather than times.  E.g. M101 is 0.8 miles away, M103 is 0.4 miles away, etc.   The information may be less useful than when provided in minutes, but it would be precisely accurate.  People are intelligent enough to use their own experience and judgment to interpret what the numbers mean in practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem the MTA currently faces is that it can&#8217;t predict how long until a bus arrives, given its location.  In a traffic environment as complex and dynamic as NYC, it is understandably very difficult to make such predictions.   All it takes is one wheelchair boarding to throw a bus a minute or two off its previously-anticipated schedule.</p>
<p>The simple solution to this would be to display bus locations as distances, rather than times.  E.g. M101 is 0.8 miles away, M103 is 0.4 miles away, etc.   The information may be less useful than when provided in minutes, but it would be precisely accurate.  People are intelligent enough to use their own experience and judgment to interpret what the numbers mean in practice.</p>
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