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	<title>Comments on: Brooklyn pols push G tunnel at Atlantic Ave.</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wrong time, right idea for G train activists</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-32728</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wrong time, right idea for G train activists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a website and blog devoted to their cause, and they&#8217;re working really hard to push the G train connection to Atlantic Ave. The only problem is that their efforts are coming at what is probably the worst time for rider [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a website and blog devoted to their cause, and they&#8217;re working really hard to push the G train connection to Atlantic Ave. The only problem is that their efforts are coming at what is probably the worst time for rider [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-28318</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi folks, there's a petition online. please check it out and see the comments. this would be great for NYC. it would help lots of people with their commuting. check the petition here:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/connect-the-g-train</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi folks, there&#8217;s a petition online. please check it out and see the comments. this would be great for NYC. it would help lots of people with their commuting. check the petition here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/connect-the-g-train" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com.....he-g-train</a></p>
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		<title>By: paulb</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-25269</link>
		<dc:creator>paulb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"a 4th Av connection that comes along with G extension to the slope."

What is this? (I know about the extension of the G line; I mean the 4th avenue part).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a 4th Av connection that comes along with G extension to the slope.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is this? (I know about the extension of the G line; I mean the 4th avenue part).</p>
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		<title>By: The Secret Conductor</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24914</link>
		<dc:creator>The Secret Conductor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I hope that this urban renewal (if it goes through of which I think it will because of the amount of money it will generate) does not destroy the neighborhood.

I do know that when stuff like this is built that allot of things are ignored when it comes to the urban planning part... at any rate, I doubt it will depress the area. it might make it louder and more traveled bringing down property values of the homes left though but the business, new employment and money brought into the area will be staggering and is the main reason why they are ignoring many of the staples of urban design and planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I hope that this urban renewal (if it goes through of which I think it will because of the amount of money it will generate) does not destroy the neighborhood.</p>
<p>I do know that when stuff like this is built that allot of things are ignored when it comes to the urban planning part&#8230; at any rate, I doubt it will depress the area. it might make it louder and more traveled bringing down property values of the homes left though but the business, new employment and money brought into the area will be staggering and is the main reason why they are ignoring many of the staples of urban design and planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24398</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the Atlantic Yards project is likely to depress the area. Urban renewal projects never cause any real urban revival; instead, they tend to bulldoze sections of neighborhoods randomly, and then cause residential flight from nearby areas because an integral part of the neighborhood has just been razed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the Atlantic Yards project is likely to depress the area. Urban renewal projects never cause any real urban revival; instead, they tend to bulldoze sections of neighborhoods randomly, and then cause residential flight from nearby areas because an integral part of the neighborhood has just been razed.</p>
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		<title>By: The Secret Conductor</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24337</link>
		<dc:creator>The Secret Conductor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the a,c,f, connecting to the N,R at Lawrence is a great idea

not too sure about the G and Atlantic ave. it is a short walk plus with Atlantic ave being so hard to navigate, i am not sure where the tunnel would actually connect at. 

that is allot of money for 200-300 people to use a tunnel a day (if that much). I would change my mind if and when Atlantic yard get developed. if that happens, then yeah, do it cause  downtown Brooklyn will be the like going to the city (downtown Manhattan). workers, tourists, and people coming from the hoods that the G services... maybe even the far reaches of queens will quickly come to the Brooklyn nets games if the g tunnel was built.  heck, the tunnel should be part of the whole ratner project if he plans on building the new nets stadium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the a,c,f, connecting to the N,R at Lawrence is a great idea</p>
<p>not too sure about the G and Atlantic ave. it is a short walk plus with Atlantic ave being so hard to navigate, i am not sure where the tunnel would actually connect at. </p>
<p>that is allot of money for 200-300 people to use a tunnel a day (if that much). I would change my mind if and when Atlantic yard get developed. if that happens, then yeah, do it cause  downtown Brooklyn will be the like going to the city (downtown Manhattan). workers, tourists, and people coming from the hoods that the G services&#8230; maybe even the far reaches of queens will quickly come to the Brooklyn nets games if the g tunnel was built.  heck, the tunnel should be part of the whole ratner project if he plans on building the new nets stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24326</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The connection between Times Square and Port Authority is 800 feet long; so is the connection between 14th/7th and 14th/6th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The connection between Times Square and Port Authority is 800 feet long; so is the connection between 14th/7th and 14th/6th.</p>
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		<title>By: JAR</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24220</link>
		<dc:creator>JAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>660 ft tunnel?  Isn't that about the length of two football fields, and longer than a single platform?  A long passageway that would be lightly trafficked is also a safety concern.  File this under pipe dream... new infrastructure to add connections to the G are rightfully low priority - it's far more expensive than a 4th Av connection that comes along with G extension to the slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>660 ft tunnel?  Isn&#8217;t that about the length of two football fields, and longer than a single platform?  A long passageway that would be lightly trafficked is also a safety concern.  File this under pipe dream&#8230; new infrastructure to add connections to the G are rightfully low priority - it&#8217;s far more expensive than a 4th Av connection that comes along with G extension to the slope.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24073</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’ve thought, and I don’t know why this occurred, that the Independent subway was deliberately constructed to integrate as little as possible with the two already existing systems.&lt;/em&gt;

Of course it was. The IND, in fact, was designed to &lt;em&gt;compete&lt;/em&gt; with those systems. That's why, for instance, the Bronx IND was built along the Grand Concourse, even though the IRT Jerome line was (in most places) only a few blocks away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve thought, and I don’t know why this occurred, that the Independent subway was deliberately constructed to integrate as little as possible with the two already existing systems.</em></p>
<p>Of course it was. The IND, in fact, was designed to <em>compete</em> with those systems. That&#8217;s why, for instance, the Bronx IND was built along the Grand Concourse, even though the IRT Jerome line was (in most places) only a few blocks away.</p>
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		<title>By: smokedgouda</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/02/08/brooklyn-pols-push-g-tunnel-at-atlantic-ave/#comment-24047</link>
		<dc:creator>smokedgouda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am usually a transit advocate, but this idea stinks of waste.  Transit projects should be considered for how many people they will serve and this will not have much effect compared to SAS, or even F-Express.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am usually a transit advocate, but this idea stinks of waste.  Transit projects should be considered for how many people they will serve and this will not have much effect compared to SAS, or even F-Express.</p>
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