Comments on: In the Bronx, Metro-North continues work on their most expensive station ever http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:05:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jim http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32592 Jim Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:22:34 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32592 I've been saying (to whom? OK, my cat, but still I've been saying) for years that all they had to do was put up a simple platform at the stadium. This goes way back before the new stadium construction. All they needed was to pour some concrete and stop the damn trains. The frills and majesty are nice, but I'd rather not see them act so proud of something they could have done a lot more simply 20 years ago. They could have saved me a lot of time and carbon monoxide poisoning from waiting to get on the Deegan in my car. And hey, fellow northern commuters, remember all those magic nights when the cops simply wouldn't let you on the northbound Deegan at all, and you had to go through a bunch of traffic and lights to go south and turn around at 149th St.? Someone still has a punch in the teeth coming over that "strategy." I’ve been saying (to whom? OK, my cat, but still I’ve been saying) for years that all they had to do was put up a simple platform at the stadium. This goes way back before the new stadium construction. All they needed was to pour some concrete and stop the damn trains.

The frills and majesty are nice, but I’d rather not see them act so proud of something they could have done a lot more simply 20 years ago. They could have saved me a lot of time and carbon monoxide poisoning from waiting to get on the Deegan in my car.

And hey, fellow northern commuters, remember all those magic nights when the cops simply wouldn’t let you on the northbound Deegan at all, and you had to go through a bunch of traffic and lights to go south and turn around at 149th St.? Someone still has a punch in the teeth coming over that “strategy.”

]]> By: jmc http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32324 jmc Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:26:47 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32324 I wonder if the large size of these platforms is a design decision due to the nature of the station: When games end there will be HUGE crowds on the platforms and having a little more room is a good way to make sure it stays safe. I've been in train stations in Europe after a soccer game ends and it can get pretty scary-crowded. I'd pay for a gilded MNRR station over a parking garage any day! I wonder if the large size of these platforms is a design decision due to the nature of the station: When games end there will be HUGE crowds on the platforms and having a little more room is a good way to make sure it stays safe. I’ve been in train stations in Europe after a soccer game ends and it can get pretty scary-crowded.

I’d pay for a gilded MNRR station over a parking garage any day!

]]> By: Richard Layman http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32317 Richard Layman Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:34:17 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32317 I agree with you that less money should have been provided for stadium construction, and more of the public money should have gone towards this kind of infrastructure. But it's great that they are promoting transit, rather than driving, to the games. And if they do the kind of mobilityshed - transitshed planning that I advocate (see http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobility-shed-revisited.html) then benefits can be garnered for the neighborhoods served by the station, outside of the impact from the Stadium. I agree with you that less money should have been provided for stadium construction, and more of the public money should have gone towards this kind of infrastructure. But it’s great that they are promoting transit, rather than driving, to the games. And if they do the kind of mobilityshed - transitshed planning that I advocate (see http://urbanplacesandspaces.bl.....sited.html) then benefits can be garnered for the neighborhoods served by the station, outside of the impact from the Stadium.

]]> By: Streetsblog » Today’s Headlines http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32296 Streetsblog » Today’s Headlines Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:57:11 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32296 [...] Traded Prior to Council Vote (AMNY)Public Foots the Bill for Yankee Stadium Metro-North Station (2nd Ave Sagas)More Retail in Store for Fourth Avenue (Brooklyn Paper)Brooklyn Homeowners Association Goes Gated [...] [...] Traded Prior to Council Vote (AMNY)Public Foots the Bill for Yankee Stadium Metro-North Station (2nd Ave Sagas)More Retail in Store for Fourth Avenue (Brooklyn Paper)Brooklyn Homeowners Association Goes Gated [...]

]]> By: Pete C. http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32154 Pete C. Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:38:00 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32154 If I read the agreements correctly, the yanks were responsible for the cost of the stadium construction. And the city and state were going improve access and egress. The team is spending 1.3B for the park. truthfully teams with a lot less chops screwed there cities and states out of a lot more money and services for a lot less investment by the team. The reason I believe the team is footing the construction costs. At the beginning of all this I read an article in the Hartford courant stating the league would drop the luxury tax if a team paid for the construction with their money. Until the stadium is paid off. If I read the agreements correctly, the yanks were responsible for the cost of the stadium construction. And the city and state were going improve access and egress. The team is spending 1.3B for the park. truthfully teams with a lot less chops screwed there cities and states out of a lot more money and services for a lot less investment by the team. The reason I believe the team is footing the construction costs. At the beginning of all this I read an article in the Hartford courant stating the league would drop the luxury tax if a team paid for the construction with their money. Until the stadium is paid off.

]]> By: River Ave. Blues | Checking on the Metro-North construction http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32145 River Ave. Blues | Checking on the Metro-North construction Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:51:02 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32145 [...] Ave. Sagas takes a look at the progress in the construction of the new Metro-North Yankee Stadium stop. It’s still on schedule, which is surprising for an MTA [...] [...] Ave. Sagas takes a look at the progress in the construction of the new Metro-North Yankee Stadium stop. It’s still on schedule, which is surprising for an MTA [...]

]]> By: Larry V http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32143 Larry V Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:31:06 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32143 Forget the money—I'm shocked to see some sort of transit construction project actually IN PROGRESS in this day and age. Forget the money—I’m shocked to see some sort of transit construction project actually IN PROGRESS in this day and age.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32140 Benjamin Kabak Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:21:13 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32140 Outside of the city, many commuter rail stations have situations where the doors open for only the first X number of cars. Perhaps they're doing this here? Or perhaps the Journal News simply had some wrong information. The station plan — <a href="http://mta.info/mta/news/releases/images/mnr-rendering-may18-2.jpg" rel="nofollow">available here</a> — doesn't provide a conclusive answer. Outside of the city, many commuter rail stations have situations where the doors open for only the first X number of cars. Perhaps they’re doing this here? Or perhaps the Journal News simply had some wrong information. The station plan — available here — doesn’t provide a conclusive answer.

]]> By: mg http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32139 mg Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:14:22 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/02/in-the-bronx-metro-north-continues-work-on-their-most-expensive-station-ever/#comment-32139 "The platforms are 20 to 25 feet wide and 420 feet long, compared with typical platforms 12 feet by 70 feet, Miceli said." -- huh? The subway has platforms about 600 feet long, and commuter trains are even longer. Each subway car is 60-75 feet long. “The platforms are 20 to 25 feet wide and 420 feet long, compared with typical platforms 12 feet by 70 feet, Miceli said.” — huh? The subway has platforms about 600 feet long, and commuter trains are even longer. Each subway car is 60-75 feet long.

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