Comments on: A parking approach to MTA funding http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:09:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Edan http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-33275 Edan Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:17:10 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-33275 So.. has anyone even thought about how the people who take public transit everyday to work, but still own a car for local use. So.. has anyone even thought about how the people who take public transit everyday to work, but still own a car for local use.

]]> By: AllWaysNY | Blog » AWNY Linkomat http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-33173 AllWaysNY | Blog » AWNY Linkomat Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:24:33 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-33173 [...] A Parking Approach to MTA Funding (Second Avenue Sagas) [...] [...] A Parking Approach to MTA Funding (Second Avenue Sagas) [...]

]]> By: Chris http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-33004 Chris Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:59:02 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-33004 <I><B>Some Sense:</B> Meter parking is $0.25 for 10 minutes, so its actually <B>$1.50 a minute</B>. The city is in the process of swithcing to muni-metrs which are even more expensive (varies by n’hood) Gotta love “Blog reporting”! Anyone with an internet connection can be taken as a news source! Please check your facts.</I> Gotta love "Blog commenting!" Anyone with an internet connection can be a critic! Please proofread. Some Sense: Meter parking is $0.25 for 10 minutes, so its actually $1.50 a minute. The city is in the process of swithcing to muni-metrs which are even more expensive (varies by n’hood)

Gotta love “Blog reporting”! Anyone with an internet connection can be taken as a news source! Please check your facts.

Gotta love “Blog commenting!” Anyone with an internet connection can be a critic! Please proofread.

]]> By: VLM http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32938 VLM Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:00:03 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32938 <strong>Some Sense:</strong> Gotta love "Blog commenting"! Anyone with an internet connection can be an obnoxious troll. What Ben said about below-market rates for street parking stands whether he omitted 50 cents or not. Get over yourself. Some Sense: Gotta love “Blog commenting”! Anyone with an internet connection can be an obnoxious troll.

What Ben said about below-market rates for street parking stands whether he omitted 50 cents or not. Get over yourself.

]]> By: Some Sense http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32911 Some Sense Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:16:50 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32911 Meter parking is $0.25 for 10 minutes, so its actually $1.50 a minute. The city is in the process of swithcing to muni-metrs which are even more expensive (varies by n'hood) Gotta love "Blog reporting"! Anyone with an internet connection can be taken as a news source! Please check your facts. ....and its not the parking that causes congestion, its the DOUBLE PARKING. Why trucks do not use the hydrant space to unload is beyond me... sometimes vans double park when there are spots RIGHT THERE!! Solution: Plain and simple, charge people an annual fee for a NYCity drivers license. Even make it a 1/5th of the cost for residents. Also, make people pass an intelligence test to obtain one Meter parking is $0.25 for 10 minutes, so its actually $1.50 a minute. The city is in the process of swithcing to muni-metrs which are even more expensive (varies by n’hood)

Gotta love “Blog reporting”! Anyone with an internet connection can be taken as a news source! Please check your facts.

….and its not the parking that causes congestion, its the DOUBLE PARKING. Why trucks do not use the hydrant space to unload is beyond me… sometimes vans double park when there are spots RIGHT THERE!!

Solution: Plain and simple, charge people an annual fee for a NYCity drivers license. Even make it a 1/5th of the cost for residents. Also, make people pass an intelligence test to obtain one

]]> By: The Secret Conductor http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32898 The Secret Conductor Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:44:27 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32898 Hmmmm... I guess the city can come up with some kind of way to get the money that isn't actually under Albany's control to do for example raising the parking meters and such. I still don't see it coming anywhere near close to what congestion pricing would have gotten, but its something. I still think there will be a fare increase next year. I have to still wonder how the actually plan on paying for all the commitments and project, some of have already started. Higher parking fees? Higher traffic tickets? More stop light cameras? Higher tolls on bridges? More taxes for city residents IRREGARDLESS of whether you own a car or not? At the end of the day, except for higher tickets, what is so different about many of the proposed money raising incentives from congestion pricing? Its still a tax, except instead of taxing the driver who goes into lower Manhattan when they have alternatives, they are taxing all of us. Hmmmm… I guess the city can come up with some kind of way to get the money that isn’t actually under Albany’s control to do for example raising the parking meters and such.

I still don’t see it coming anywhere near close to what congestion pricing would have gotten, but its something. I still think there will be a fare increase next year.

I have to still wonder how the actually plan on paying for all the commitments and project, some of have already started. Higher parking fees? Higher traffic tickets? More stop light cameras? Higher tolls on bridges? More taxes for city residents IRREGARDLESS of whether you own a car or not?

At the end of the day, except for higher tickets, what is so different about many of the proposed money raising incentives from congestion pricing? Its still a tax, except instead of taxing the driver who goes into lower Manhattan when they have alternatives, they are taxing all of us.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32882 Benjamin Kabak Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:28:22 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32882 The red-light cameras are an interesting case study in urban economics. Check out <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/your-city-needs-you-to-blow-through-red-lights/" rel="nofollow">this Freakonomics post</a>. After a while, they actually cost more to maintain than they take in. Maybe in New York, the scale is a bit different than in Dallas, and we'd still see enough violators to make it worthwhile. The red-light cameras are an interesting case study in urban economics. Check out this Freakonomics post. After a while, they actually cost more to maintain than they take in. Maybe in New York, the scale is a bit different than in Dallas, and we’d still see enough violators to make it worthwhile.

]]> By: Todd http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32881 Todd Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:25:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32881 I really like the idea of increasing meter costs. I also love the idea of charging more based on transit availability. That would totally eliminate the "some people just HAVE to drive into Manhattan" anti-congestion pricing argument. I would add that increased traffic cop patrols would increase revenue. I know they patrol the Upper-East side like hawks and rake in cash. If they did that elsewhere, they could make quite a bit more. Also, are the red light/speeding cameras profitable? If so, why not install more of those? I really like the idea of increasing meter costs. I also love the idea of charging more based on transit availability. That would totally eliminate the “some people just HAVE to drive into Manhattan” anti-congestion pricing argument.

I would add that increased traffic cop patrols would increase revenue. I know they patrol the Upper-East side like hawks and rake in cash. If they did that elsewhere, they could make quite a bit more. Also, are the red light/speeding cameras profitable? If so, why not install more of those?

]]> By: Geoffrey http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32870 Geoffrey Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:59:35 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32870 I've been watching with great interest the debacle in NYC over congestion pricing and after reading this post I'm quite shocked that meters in Manhattan are only $1/hour! In Ottawa, where I live, a city of around a million in the greater metro area, meters have long been 2.50/hour and are going up to 3.00... New York must be losing millions from this backward pricing of meters. This should change ASAP. Chris, I like your idea of charging more in better served areas. I’ve been watching with great interest the debacle in NYC over congestion pricing and after reading this post I’m quite shocked that meters in Manhattan are only $1/hour!

In Ottawa, where I live, a city of around a million in the greater metro area, meters have long been 2.50/hour and are going up to 3.00… New York must be losing millions from this backward pricing of meters. This should change ASAP.

Chris, I like your idea of charging more in better served areas.

]]> By: Chris http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/04/10/a-parking-approach-to-mta-funding/#comment-32866 Chris Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:24:43 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=785#comment-32866 Here's an idea: the cost for residential parking permits be based on accessibility to transit. If you park in an area that has access to multiple subway lines that offer a 15-minute ride to Midtown, you should pay more. Here’s an idea: the cost for residential parking permits be based on accessibility to transit. If you park in an area that has access to multiple subway lines that offer a 15-minute ride to Midtown, you should pay more.

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