Comments on: The MTA spent $1 billion, and all they got were some broken elevators http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/05/19/the-mta-spent-1-billion-and-all-they-got-were-some-broken-elevators/ A New York City Subway Blog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:13:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » Coming next week: Environmentally-advanced escalators http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/05/19/the-mta-spent-1-billion-and-all-they-got-were-some-broken-elevators/#comment-43063 Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » Coming next week: Environmentally-advanced escalators Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:23:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=877#comment-43063 [...] attempt to draw too much attention my escalators. We have long heard about how many escalators are notoriously out of service, and in a way, the escalators are symbolic the larger problems plaguing the [...] [...] attempt to draw too much attention my escalators. We have long heard about how many escalators are notoriously out of service, and in a way, the escalators are symbolic the larger problems plaguing the [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » We now rejoin ‘As the Escalator Doesn’t Rise’ already in progress http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/05/19/the-mta-spent-1-billion-and-all-they-got-were-some-broken-elevators/#comment-39121 Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » We now rejoin ‘As the Escalator Doesn’t Rise’ already in progress Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:01:33 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=877#comment-39121 [...] documented rampant elevator outages throughout the subway system, and The New York Times had issued a stunning indictment of the MTA’s escalators and elevators. The Straphangers Campaign jumped on the bandwagon, [...] [...] documented rampant elevator outages throughout the subway system, and The New York Times had issued a stunning indictment of the MTA’s escalators and elevators. The Straphangers Campaign jumped on the bandwagon, [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » The MTA responds to elevator accusations http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/05/19/the-mta-spent-1-billion-and-all-they-got-were-some-broken-elevators/#comment-35863 Second Ave. Sagas | Blogging the NYC Subways » Blog Archive » The MTA responds to elevator accusations Tue, 20 May 2008 04:27:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=877#comment-35863 [...] 2nd Ave. Subway History « The MTA spent $1 billion, and all they got were some broken elevators [...] [...] 2nd Ave. Subway History « The MTA spent $1 billion, and all they got were some broken elevators [...]

]]> By: Marc Shepherd http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/05/19/the-mta-spent-1-billion-and-all-they-got-were-some-broken-elevators/#comment-35848 Marc Shepherd Mon, 19 May 2008 22:09:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=877#comment-35848 Deep stations like Clark Street have more than one elevator, because they were designed that way from the start. The elevators may be creaky, but there's nearly always at least one working. The more severe problem is where stations have been retrofitted for ADA access, for instance at W. 4th Street. In such cases, there's no redundancy. There's just one elevator to the mezzanine, and just one elevator to each platform. If any of them are out of order, the station is effectively no longer ADA-accessible. Deep stations like Clark Street have more than one elevator, because they were designed that way from the start. The elevators may be creaky, but there’s nearly always at least one working.

The more severe problem is where stations have been retrofitted for ADA access, for instance at W. 4th Street. In such cases, there’s no redundancy. There’s just one elevator to the mezzanine, and just one elevator to each platform. If any of them are out of order, the station is effectively no longer ADA-accessible.

]]> By: ScottE http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/05/19/the-mta-spent-1-billion-and-all-they-got-were-some-broken-elevators/#comment-35842 ScottE Mon, 19 May 2008 20:13:11 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=877#comment-35842 So much for the theory that "broken escalators are just stairs". My wife took the long escalator at Grand Central down to the 7 line while pregnant, and later while carrying my newborn son. I could only imagine what might have happened if she encountered the same escalator malfunctions that the women at Sutphin-Archer and Bowling Greene (pages 3-5 of the article) had to contend with. Maintenance always gets neglected. People would rather see something bright and shiny and new (the three big MTA projects that we always here about), even at the expense of <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/05/01/2008-05-01_screech_mta_says_its_2b_short_in_push_fo.html" rel="nofollow">deferred maintenace of the existing system</a> So much for the theory that “broken escalators are just stairs”. My wife took the long escalator at Grand Central down to the 7 line while pregnant, and later while carrying my newborn son. I could only imagine what might have happened if she encountered the same escalator malfunctions that the women at Sutphin-Archer and Bowling Greene (pages 3-5 of the article) had to contend with.

Maintenance always gets neglected. People would rather see something bright and shiny and new (the three big MTA projects that we always here about), even at the expense of deferred maintenace of the existing system

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