Comments on: A subway system easier to navigate

By: Juan Felipe

Juan Felipe — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:23:42 +0000

Europe in general has far better way-finding signs (for everything, not just with public transit) than the United States.

By: Abe

Abe — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:26:30 +0000

This type of sign actually reminds me of a console installed in the waiting areas of some Paris Metro stations; its a system map on a wall, with every stop alphabetically listed with a button on the bottom. When you push the button, a light path from your station to the destination is lit. It serves the same purpose as these Vignelli signs, but would be more expensive.

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By: Zachsta

Zachsta — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:17:50 +0000

But would it actually detract from the needs of locals if the MTA were to put up some more signs intended for visitors? How much could that possibly cost, as a percentage of the MTA’s total budget? Besides, if we didn’t provide for visitors then there wouldn’t be two subway maps in every single car. Those aren’t there for amnesiac commuters, you know. You might be too busy reflecting on your coolness to notice, but New York is by leaps and bounds the number one destination for tourists in the U.S., and that adds to our economy. If you really have a problem with welcoming visitors then I can’t think of anything more stupid than living in New York.

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By: Daniel

Daniel — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:06:46 +0000

SubwayRider – Just because their needs are secondary, doesn’t mean those needs shouldn’t be met! In what way would these guides disadvantage the locals? Answer: they wouldn’t. If you don’t need to use them, don’t use them.

End of chapter.

By: SubwayRider

SubwayRider — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:22:46 +0000

“Yes the system works just fine for locals, but what percentage of people looking at the subway maps in a station are actually locals?”

The NYC Subway system exists first and foremost, for locals – ALWAYS. I seriously really don’t give a damn about visitors, their needs are secondary to NYC residents. NYC residents should always be first priority when it comes to improving subway convenience. If you think otherwise, you’ve crazy. NYC residents live here, day in, day out, 24/7/365 and it is here for OUR needs, to get to work and to live our lives in this city, not visitors that are here for only short periods. The rest of us spend our LIVES here. Money spent on locals first, visitors second. Raise fares for Visitors first, locals as a last resort. End of story.

By: DaleNapier

DaleNapier — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:56:10 +0000

@SubwayRider:

You do make sense in that if they can’t understand the map, then they should ask someone but come across as ignorant in every other aspect. The system needs to cater to everyone, not just locals.

The whole purpose of a subway map is to provide information in the easiest and most understandable way to those who don’t know where they are going. Yes the system works just fine for locals, but what percentage of people looking at the subway maps in a station are actually locals? Daniel is right – New York screams international and I live halfway across the globe.

@Boris:

Great idea. The city I live has some busy bus stations with terminals like you mention and they are very useful for people not sure how to get where they’re going. The transport system also has a web app where you enter your start and end destination (down to your street address) + what time you need to get there, and it will work out how far you have to walk, what number route to catch, how long it will take and how much it will cost. It’s brilliant and I don’t even need a map.

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