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	<title>Comments on: The Taking of Photographs of Pelham 1-2-3 and bridge-crossing trains</title>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/07/03/the-taking-of-photographs-of-pelham-1-2-3-and-bridge-crossing-trains/#comment-57322</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the subway cars on flatbeds many times, i&#039;ve heard about them shutting down lanes on the GWB to give the trucks access on traffic reports too. There&#039;s nothing all that special about it, it&#039;s just the only way to get oversize loads into NYC reasonably.  

Even stranger, i&#039;ve seen them coming down I-80 while visiting my parents in the poconos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the subway cars on flatbeds many times, i&#8217;ve heard about them shutting down lanes on the GWB to give the trucks access on traffic reports too. There&#8217;s nothing all that special about it, it&#8217;s just the only way to get oversize loads into NYC reasonably.  </p>
<p>Even stranger, i&#8217;ve seen them coming down I-80 while visiting my parents in the poconos.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottC</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/07/03/the-taking-of-photographs-of-pelham-1-2-3-and-bridge-crossing-trains/#comment-38668</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good question.  I believe there are several inspections and testing that has to take place before the car is officially accepted.  At some point in that process, the propulsion is tested, so, until that test takes place, they tow the cars.  I also think that the software installation for the computers takes place &quot;on property&quot; in MTA speak.  Both Kawasaki and Alstom have techs that help the MTA inspect the cars and fix any bugs during the acceptance testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good question.  I believe there are several inspections and testing that has to take place before the car is officially accepted.  At some point in that process, the propulsion is tested, so, until that test takes place, they tow the cars.  I also think that the software installation for the computers takes place &#8220;on property&#8221; in MTA speak.  Both Kawasaki and Alstom have techs that help the MTA inspect the cars and fix any bugs during the acceptance testing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they tow these cars by diesel instead of using their own propulsion technology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do they tow these cars by diesel instead of using their own propulsion technology?</p>
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		<title>By: ScottC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no plans for R160s on the A.  The A will remain mostly R44 and R42 until the R179s are delivered, currently scheduled for sometime after 2011.    They test on the A late night because after 11 there is no express service and the A is running local.  They also have to test announcements for possible re-routes and for clearance at stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no plans for R160s on the A.  The A will remain mostly R44 and R42 until the R179s are delivered, currently scheduled for sometime after 2011.    They test on the A late night because after 11 there is no express service and the A is running local.  They also have to test announcements for possible re-routes and for clearance at stations.</p>
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		<title>By: The Secret Conductor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Secret Conductor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw te very same thing. Now guess where? Going up Broadway (wait, is that Broadway or St. Nicolas? lol)... well, I was at 207 street on the A and I went to go get a slice of pizza and low and behold a train on a truck headed uptown.

I assume it was to eventually go to the yard or it was coming from the yard near 207.

I also seen 2 160 cars being pulled by a diesel headed south on the A line a few days ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw te very same thing. Now guess where? Going up Broadway (wait, is that Broadway or St. Nicolas? lol)&#8230; well, I was at 207 street on the A and I went to go get a slice of pizza and low and behold a train on a truck headed uptown.</p>
<p>I assume it was to eventually go to the yard or it was coming from the yard near 207.</p>
<p>I also seen 2 160 cars being pulled by a diesel headed south on the A line a few days ago.</p>
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		<title>By: jefferson.jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefferson.jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds very likely...

i think its either for the J, L, M, Z like scott says or for the A? becuase that would explain the R160 test train i saw tuesday afternoon practicing/testing on the downtown express track at columbus circle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds very likely&#8230;</p>
<p>i think its either for the J, L, M, Z like scott says or for the A? becuase that would explain the R160 test train i saw tuesday afternoon practicing/testing on the downtown express track at columbus circle&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sure. That was more of a poetic gesture than anything else. I&#039;m sure as Marc noted in his post that they&#039;re bound for 207th St.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sure. That was more of a poetic gesture than anything else. I&#8217;m sure as Marc noted in his post that they&#8217;re bound for 207th St.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All R-160 deliveries go to the 207th Street Yard.  They are then generally towed by a diesel engine to either Coney Island or East NY yards for acceptance and burn testing.

Since it was coming over the GW, it is an R-160A (Alstom) so it is ultimately bound for East NY for service on the J,L,M and Z.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All R-160 deliveries go to the 207th Street Yard.  They are then generally towed by a diesel engine to either Coney Island or East NY yards for acceptance and burn testing.</p>
<p>Since it was coming over the GW, it is an R-160A (Alstom) so it is ultimately bound for East NY for service on the J,L,M and Z.</p>
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		<title>By: jefferson.jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefferson.jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two days ago i was at the 59th st columbus circle station round 4pm and i saw a test train on the downtown express track...

maybe the A line is about to get those new subways cars like the L, J, 6, N, etc...

this would make sense then (the train on tn the flatbed heading to the 207st yard)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two days ago i was at the 59th st columbus circle station round 4pm and i saw a test train on the downtown express track&#8230;</p>
<p>maybe the A line is about to get those new subways cars like the L, J, 6, N, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>this would make sense then (the train on tn the flatbed heading to the 207st yard)&#8230;</p>
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