Comments on: In the future, rush hour trains with no seats at all http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/ A New York City Subway Blog Fri, 25 May 2012 06:33:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Transit scraps flip-seat pilot but other tests go on :: Second Ave. Sagas http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-92530 Transit scraps flip-seat pilot but other tests go on :: Second Ave. Sagas Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:01:25 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-92530 [...] a single car by removing seats. That’s the path New York City Transit first started to follow in April 2008 when the agency announced a pilot that see seats removed at rush hour. Now that this train car is [...] [...] a single car by removing seats. That’s the path New York City Transit first started to follow in April 2008 when the agency announced a pilot that see seats removed at rush hour. Now that this train car is [...]

]]> By: Seatless train experiment stalling out :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-64800 Seatless train experiment stalling out :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:08:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-64800 [...] combat overcrowding during peak travel times, the MTA proposed last August to remove seats from some trains during rush hour. At the time, it appeared as though the MTA would unveil a trial train car by [...] [...] combat overcrowding during peak travel times, the MTA proposed last August to remove seats from some trains during rush hour. At the time, it appeared as though the MTA would unveil a trial train car by [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » » Ahead of New York, Boston starts seatless car experiment http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-57629 Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » » Ahead of New York, Boston starts seatless car experiment Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:21:31 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-57629 [...] the MTA announced plans for a seatless car experiment in August, Boston’s MBTA has beaten them to the punch. As the Daily News reports today, some [...] [...] the MTA announced plans for a seatless car experiment in August, Boston’s MBTA has beaten them to the punch. As the Daily News reports today, some [...]

]]> By: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » More feelers on seatless cars http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-45520 Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog » Blog Archive » More feelers on seatless cars Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:30:50 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-45520 [...] weeks ago, we talked about the MTA’s plan to install flip seats in subway cars in order to maximize rush hour train capacity. Today, The Times takes a look at the [...] [...] weeks ago, we talked about the MTA’s plan to install flip seats in subway cars in order to maximize rush hour train capacity. Today, The Times takes a look at the [...]

]]> By: Boris http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-42672 Boris Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:27:34 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-42672 I'm a bit skeptical about the locks they will use to keep the seats up. Consider how often you see first stop/last stop signs set incorrectly (the ones that have to be wound manually). And that's just one or two per car. Many station clocks are wrong, and they need to be set probably at most once a year. Depending on how the locks work- whole row at once, every individual seat, how many turns of the key, etc- there may be many irregularities with those seats. They may be either available or unavailable at the wrong time, in more or fewer than 4 cars, etc. And there may be a proliferation of picks or copied keys to unlock the seats. I’m a bit skeptical about the locks they will use to keep the seats up. Consider how often you see first stop/last stop signs set incorrectly (the ones that have to be wound manually). And that’s just one or two per car. Many station clocks are wrong, and they need to be set probably at most once a year.

Depending on how the locks work- whole row at once, every individual seat, how many turns of the key, etc- there may be many irregularities with those seats. They may be either available or unavailable at the wrong time, in more or fewer than 4 cars, etc. And there may be a proliferation of picks or copied keys to unlock the seats.

]]> By: KaiB http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-42669 KaiB Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:48:46 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-42669 In all honesty though, there is also the problem of the bars hanging from the ceiling. If you are over 5'10" you're not getting into that extra space without ducking. I'd be hitting my head all the time. Or are we going back to straps? In all honesty though, there is also the problem of the bars hanging from the ceiling. If you are over 5’10″ you’re not getting into that extra space without ducking. I’d be hitting my head all the time.

Or are we going back to straps?

]]> By: Peter http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-42661 Peter Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:36:22 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-42661 MOOOOOOO! MOOOOOOO!

]]> By: Kai B http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/08/04/in-the-future-rush-hour-trains-with-no-seats-at-all/#comment-42637 Kai B Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:25:57 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1108#comment-42637 Now all we need are some white-gloved train loaders ala Japan. They'd enable the fitting of an additional 20% more people! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE35onlIySk Now all we need are some white-gloved train loaders ala Japan. They’d enable the fitting of an additional 20% more people!

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