Comments on: City, MTA officially kill planned 7 stop at Tenth Ave.

By: Woody

Woody — Sun, 17 May 2009 16:12:30 +0000

The map above has a silver glimmer off to the left margin. I mean, Damn. That tunnel goes all the way down to 25th Street! Yeah, I know they have to pull the rain through the station and turn it around.

But that gets the tunnel almost to 14th St., where the tunnel for the L line also reaches far beyond the station at 8th Ave. With a gap of barely a mile, you could probably connect those tunnels for less than $2 billion — if you didn’t bother putting in another station, ha ha ha. And given that stations seemed to be priced at nearly half a billion dollars per, maybe it’s not to laugh.

So could the #7 trains from the IRT line fit through the L line tunnel under 14th St. and head back to Queens someday? Probably after making a stop at new stations at 23rd St and 10th Ave and again at 14th and 10th?

By: Harry Podder and the Big Apple » Blog Archive » Fantasy Map

Harry Podder and the Big Apple » Blog Archive » Fantasy Map — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:21:25 +0000

[...] It’s like a bizarre dream looking at this 1939 map of the planned expansion for New York City Subway. Look at how the 7 line go all the way passed Flushing and go to two directions: College Point/Whitestone and Bayside! Then look at how there’s another line crossed the East River to service Southside of Williamsburg or look at how there is a line go straight to Staten Island. What about the line go across Long Island City similar to today’s route of Grand Central then connect to today’s L.I.E. to go to Little Neck? It’s such a strange fantasy. It’s what a system that could have been. It’s too bad that we all know it will never become a reality because of financial situation of MTA and the City and the State. But one would wonder how on earth did the New York City before us built our current system? was it built with no financial constraint? was it during the time when the city was filthy rich? Actually the subway was built during some of the harsh time in history, like WWI, like Great Depression. Yet they were able to build the most complex system in the world. The old city builders must be shaking their heads in their graves if they know how we can’t even afford to build one extra station on the 7 Line. [...]

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:04:26 +0000

Old Chucky has 2 cents to add to anything that happens, but that windbag never has any solutions–he’s just a media whore.

By: Alon Levy

Alon Levy — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:26:09 +0000

Excuse me, but the “Already developed” excuse comes from Bloomberg, not the MTA.

By: The Boss

The Boss — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:38:23 +0000

“Already developed?” This is another reason why the MTA is no go and has to go. They don’t care about the people in New York City, they just care about lining their own pockets.

By: Alon Levy

Alon Levy — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:55:34 +0000

If they don’t have the money for two stops, they should scrap the 34th/11th stop. There’s nothing there except a convention center, which is a destination for discretionary travel rather than commuting. Non-commuter stations tend to have dismal ridership: on the A, Howard Beach-JFK actually has less ridership than Far Rockaway; on the 7, Shea Stadium has the second lowest ridership, after Hunters Point.

By: nyctransitrider

nyctransitrider — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:57:20 +0000

The M.T.A. just keeps on making mistakes including this one. Has anyone else noticed that the tile floor that is just being installed in the Columbus Circle Station is already quite dirty? They should have gone with granite like they used in the Times Square Station. The M.T.A. needs to stop trying to save money and focus on finding the funds to build and maintain a first rate system.

By: herenthere

herenthere — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:43:04 +0000

I think they had to make a tough choice with the 10th Ave station: costs a lot, especially in today’s economic times (and especially with the MTA’s huge deficit). However, I agree with neighborhood advocates: building later would mean costing and disrupting 7 service much, much more. And a good point there Ben about how the Upper East Side is “already developed.” Sure, we build subways to spur growth (as it is in Hong Kong), but we also use it to expand a commuter’s and resident’s connection to the rest of the city.

By: Gary

Gary — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:21:51 +0000

Unbelievable.

To recap, here is what is important to Bloomberg:
- The Olympics (!)
- Jets stadium
- new Yankee Statium
- new Mets stadium
- Nets arena/ ratner welfare
- $1 BILLION discretionary tax rebate last year, knowing FULL WELL we were running into fiscal trouble.

Bloomberg’s done a few great things, but by and large the man is an out of touch, egomaniac. And he wants a third term!

99% of his “PlaNYC” was recycled from existing plans and projects, cobbled together for a great press release and to give cover for Congestion Pricing.

I still think tolling all the river crossings is the most effective means, combined with the millionaire’s tax (which Bloomberg opposes for obvious reasons) to pay for the transit improvements we desperately need.

I can’t wait to get rid of this guy. He presided over the single largest building boom in NYC history, could have done some great things, but his priorities and ideology are fatally flawed.