Comments on: Dreaming of the Second System: Where the subways should go http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/ A New York City Subway Blog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:33:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: vanshnookenraggen blog | The futureNYCSubway: The IND Second System http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-71181 vanshnookenraggen blog | The futureNYCSubway: The IND Second System Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:36:54 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-71181 [...] Dreaming of the Second System, Second Ave Sagas [...] [...] Dreaming of the Second System, Second Ave Sagas [...]

]]> By: When you could finally take the A train :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-64491 When you could finally take the A train :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:00:15 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-64491 [...] 1988, 56 years after the first A train rolled up the tracks. Meanwhile, the Second System, which I explored in depth last year, has never materialized, and we’re still waiting for the Second Ave. Subway to [...] [...] 1988, 56 years after the first A train rolled up the tracks. Meanwhile, the Second System, which I explored in depth last year, has never materialized, and we’re still waiting for the Second Ave. Subway to [...]

]]> By: Inside the system’s abandoned stations :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-60862 Inside the system’s abandoned stations :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Tue, 12 May 2009 16:33:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-60862 [...] is dramatic, and the tale of an unfinished upper level at Roosevelt Ave. makes me yearn for the never-built second system. Categories : Abandoned Stations, [...] [...] is dramatic, and the tale of an unfinished upper level at Roosevelt Ave. makes me yearn for the never-built second system. Categories : Abandoned Stations, [...]

]]> By: Harry Podder and the Big Apple » Blog Archive » Fantasy Map http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-52525 Harry Podder and the Big Apple » Blog Archive » Fantasy Map Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:18:55 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-52525 [...] like a bizarre dream looking at this 1939 map of the planned expansion for New York City Subway. Look at how the 7 line go all the way passed Flushing and go to two [...] [...] like a bizarre dream looking at this 1939 map of the planned expansion for New York City Subway. Look at how the 7 line go all the way passed Flushing and go to two [...]

]]> By: Ellie http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-50798 Ellie Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:13:45 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-50798 To have a subway system like this, I'd gladly pay more for a ride! To have a subway system like this, I’d gladly pay more for a ride!

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-50794 Alon Levy Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:33:23 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-50794 That's not true. Shanghai, Osaka, and Toronto are not national capitals. Shanghai still has impressive subway growth, Osaka has the second largest rail system in the world, and Toronto is now planning its own equivalent of the Second System. That’s not true. Shanghai, Osaka, and Toronto are not national capitals. Shanghai still has impressive subway growth, Osaka has the second largest rail system in the world, and Toronto is now planning its own equivalent of the Second System.

]]> By: paulb http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-50793 paulb Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:21:09 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-50793 Not being officially our nation's capital city is I think the reason NYC has not been able to mount some of the dramatic projects like subway expansion that you see in other nations. It would be great if we could (or more pertinently, were willing to) fund them ourselves. Not being officially our nation’s capital city is I think the reason NYC has not been able to mount some of the dramatic projects like subway expansion that you see in other nations. It would be great if we could (or more pertinently, were willing to) fund them ourselves.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-50443 Alon Levy Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:00:35 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-50443 There were ambitious plans every decade beginning in the 1910s, until the 1970s. The one in the 1910s was mostly completed, the one in the early 1920s only netted two major lines that didn't exist before (QB and Crosstown), and the subsequent ones didn't go anywhere. There were ambitious plans every decade beginning in the 1910s, until the 1970s. The one in the 1910s was mostly completed, the one in the early 1920s only netted two major lines that didn’t exist before (QB and Crosstown), and the subsequent ones didn’t go anywhere.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-50442 Alon Levy Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:57:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-50442 I'm well aware. My point isn't that the MTA should do it. Rather, it's that fantasizing about the Second System is anachronistic because of changes in needs. I’m well aware. My point isn’t that the MTA should do it. Rather, it’s that fantasizing about the Second System is anachronistic because of changes in needs.

]]> By: herenthere http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/09/19/dreaming-of-the-second-system-where-the-subways-should-go/#comment-50412 herenthere Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:12:00 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=1364#comment-50412 Ben Kabak: one great historian...Reading this post made me tear up as a long-time Queens resident...what could've been. I think what Moses should have done was to have a better mix of car + mass transit. Time machine anyone? BTW, any idea on why the F train is sometimes going local/Qns Blvd Line crawling so slow in the AM Rush even though no apparent track work is seen being done? Ben Kabak: one great historian…Reading this post made me tear up as a long-time Queens resident…what could’ve been.

I think what Moses should have done was to have a better mix of car + mass transit. Time machine anyone?

BTW, any idea on why the F train is sometimes going local/Qns Blvd Line crawling so slow in the AM Rush even though no apparent track work is seen being done?

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