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	<title>Comments on: Report: Ravitch to suggest East River tolls</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57517</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these advocates for this toll marvel me.   Its so easy for you to say sure add another tax to the driver... Never mind that we pay the highest insurance, and that we have huge gas prices, and that our pot holes are craters, that we cant find a decent parking spot without paying 150 a month, that cleaning regulations make us move our cars all day, we get extremely pricey tickets, that our inspections and registration fees are huge, that I DONT WANT TO ride a train, that I cant ride a train, that i have kids and family to take places, and still have to make it to work, that i have an pet, an injured or invalid loved one, or that i JUST WANT MY DAYUM PEACE AND QUIET ON THE CAR I PAY 500 A MONTH FOR TO ESCAPE THE BS THIS GOVERNMENT continues to to tyrannize us with...factor that in...this run on sentence doesnt even include the lunacy and criminal dealings of the MTA,, At this point force will be deemed needed to push back this economic oppression and enslavement of the work man and women...its a disgrace to be a ny citizen....and as such i am appalled...add that to the list of why people hate us and this city.,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these advocates for this toll marvel me.   Its so easy for you to say sure add another tax to the driver&#8230; Never mind that we pay the highest insurance, and that we have huge gas prices, and that our pot holes are craters, that we cant find a decent parking spot without paying 150 a month, that cleaning regulations make us move our cars all day, we get extremely pricey tickets, that our inspections and registration fees are huge, that I DONT WANT TO ride a train, that I cant ride a train, that i have kids and family to take places, and still have to make it to work, that i have an pet, an injured or invalid loved one, or that i JUST WANT MY DAYUM PEACE AND QUIET ON THE CAR I PAY 500 A MONTH FOR TO ESCAPE THE BS THIS GOVERNMENT continues to to tyrannize us with&#8230;factor that in&#8230;this run on sentence doesnt even include the lunacy and criminal dealings of the MTA,, At this point force will be deemed needed to push back this economic oppression and enslavement of the work man and women&#8230;its a disgrace to be a ny citizen&#8230;.and as such i am appalled&#8230;add that to the list of why people hate us and this city.,</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57096</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that Silver supported congestion pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that Silver supported congestion pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: herenthere</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57095</link>
		<dc:creator>herenthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better start something like the poster eastvillageidiot made:
http://eastvillageidiot.com/2008/09/09/congratulations-sheldon-silver-on-two-more-years-of-screwing-new-yorkers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better start something like the poster eastvillageidiot made:<br />
<a href="http://eastvillageidiot.com/2008/09/09/congratulations-sheldon-silver-on-two-more-years-of-screwing-new-yorkers/" rel="nofollow">http://eastvillageidiot.com/20.....w-yorkers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57086</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that most of the money flow within the system comes from the subway to the buses and from the IRT to the IND/BMT. The commuter rail systems are small potatoes compared to the NYCT bus system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that most of the money flow within the system comes from the subway to the buses and from the IRT to the IND/BMT. The commuter rail systems are small potatoes compared to the NYCT bus system.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#187; A history of the East River tolling efforts</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57083</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#187; A history of the East River tolling efforts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the city gears up for another debate about tolling the East River bridges, Sewell Chan at City Room offers up a 125-year history of the efforts to charge for these river [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the city gears up for another debate about tolling the East River bridges, Sewell Chan at City Room offers up a 125-year history of the efforts to charge for these river [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#187; The MTA Deficit: Who gets it, and who doesn&#8217;t</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57077</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#187; The MTA Deficit: Who gets it, and who doesn&#8217;t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] already seen that John Liu, the chair of the City Council&#8217;s Transportation Committe, doesn&#8217;t get it, but what about a few other big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] already seen that John Liu, the chair of the City Council&#8217;s Transportation Committe, doesn&#8217;t get it, but what about a few other big [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott E</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57071</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Eric,
On one hand, the MTA could save money by combining like-departments in different divisions.  On the other, they could be split up entirely so each division is accountable to the community it serves.

But back to your earlier point, I think more money stands to be made from the PROCESS by which the MTA buys supplies, than by the VOLUME in which it buys them.  I keep citing an example from some time back, and I wish I&#039;d saved the copy of the paper.  In the &quot;Public Notices&quot; section of the New York Post, the MTA posted an advertisement seeking a contractor to submit a bid to &quot;supply ten pairs of work boots&quot;.  After placing the ad (which likely costs more than 10 pairs of shoes), they would receive and review proposals, then award the contract to the low bidder.  FOR SHOES!  Just like the guy who got rich selling a $900 hammer to former President Reagan, people are getting rich selling everyday items to the Transportation Authority.

In all honesty, it&#039;s getting better though.  At least the Line Manager on the L line knows he can just &lt;a href=&quot;http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/10/23/l-line-manager-to-introduce-real-time-train-data/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;buy video screens at Circuit City&lt;/a&gt; without dealing with the whole time- and labor-consuming bid process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Eric,<br />
On one hand, the MTA could save money by combining like-departments in different divisions.  On the other, they could be split up entirely so each division is accountable to the community it serves.</p>
<p>But back to your earlier point, I think more money stands to be made from the PROCESS by which the MTA buys supplies, than by the VOLUME in which it buys them.  I keep citing an example from some time back, and I wish I&#8217;d saved the copy of the paper.  In the &#8220;Public Notices&#8221; section of the New York Post, the MTA posted an advertisement seeking a contractor to submit a bid to &#8220;supply ten pairs of work boots&#8221;.  After placing the ad (which likely costs more than 10 pairs of shoes), they would receive and review proposals, then award the contract to the low bidder.  FOR SHOES!  Just like the guy who got rich selling a $900 hammer to former President Reagan, people are getting rich selling everyday items to the Transportation Authority.</p>
<p>In all honesty, it&#8217;s getting better though.  At least the Line Manager on the L line knows he can just <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/10/23/l-line-manager-to-introduce-real-time-train-data/" rel="nofollow">buy video screens at Circuit City</a> without dealing with the whole time- and labor-consuming bid process.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57070</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and N/A . . . Liu is on council and that election is next year, but I understand he is gunning for Public Advocate (election also next year) along with deBlasio and Siegel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and N/A . . . Liu is on council and that election is next year, but I understand he is gunning for Public Advocate (election also next year) along with deBlasio and Siegel.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57057</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agriculture doesn&#039;t sustain an economy. California&#039;s breadbasket, the Central Valley, is as poor as Appalachia. And that&#039;s despite having more fertile land and no legacy of deindustrialization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agriculture doesn&#8217;t sustain an economy. California&#8217;s breadbasket, the Central Valley, is as poor as Appalachia. And that&#8217;s despite having more fertile land and no legacy of deindustrialization.</p>
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		<title>By: herenthere</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/11/10/report-ravitch-to-suggestion-east-river-tolls/#comment-57054</link>
		<dc:creator>herenthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know if Sheldon Silver and John Liu were re-elected? Hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know if Sheldon Silver and John Liu were re-elected? Hope not.</p>
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