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	<title>Comments on: Ahead of New York, Boston starts seatless car experiment</title>
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		<title>By: theloosh</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/12/09/ahead-of-new-york-boston-starts-seatless-car-experiment/#comment-57659</link>
		<dc:creator>theloosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chicago &#039;L&#039; got seatless &quot;MAX&quot; cars in September:

http://ww.transitchicago.com/news/ctaandpress.wu?action=displayarticledetail&amp;articleid=131368

They found we couldn&#039;t go completely seatless though because subway cars aren&#039;t engineered for that, so they took out half the seats.

The Chicago Tribune was very negative about the change all the way up to its implementation. They were very surprised when public reaction was overwhelming positive upon their debut.

The Chicago Transit Authority is also experimenting with taking out seats on buses on busier routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chicago &#8216;L&#8217; got seatless &#8220;MAX&#8221; cars in September:</p>
<p><a href="http://ww.transitchicago.com/news/ctaandpress.wu?action=displayarticledetail&#038;articleid=131368" rel="nofollow">http://ww.transitchicago.com/n.....eid=131368</a></p>
<p>They found we couldn&#8217;t go completely seatless though because subway cars aren&#8217;t engineered for that, so they took out half the seats.</p>
<p>The Chicago Tribune was very negative about the change all the way up to its implementation. They were very surprised when public reaction was overwhelming positive upon their debut.</p>
<p>The Chicago Transit Authority is also experimenting with taking out seats on buses on busier routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Skipson</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/12/09/ahead-of-new-york-boston-starts-seatless-car-experiment/#comment-57633</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip Skipson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly a cheaper way to increase capacity. Will this force riders to move to the middle of the car now? 

If/when this happens there can be a new complaint that the fares are going up and they are taking away the seats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly a cheaper way to increase capacity. Will this force riders to move to the middle of the car now? </p>
<p>If/when this happens there can be a new complaint that the fares are going up and they are taking away the seats!</p>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/12/09/ahead-of-new-york-boston-starts-seatless-car-experiment/#comment-57632</link>
		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m gonna be standing, I&#039;d rather do it in a car where everyone else is standing, than in a regular car full of young punks spreading themselves over two seats apiece and throwing their legs in the aisle....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m gonna be standing, I&#8217;d rather do it in a car where everyone else is standing, than in a regular car full of young punks spreading themselves over two seats apiece and throwing their legs in the aisle&#8230;.</p>
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