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	<title>Comments on: NYT: In support of bridge tolls</title>
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		<title>By: Alfred Beech</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/10/nyt-in-support-of-bridge-tolls/#comment-58731</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Beech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the bridge opened in 1883, it cost $.10 to drive a one horse wagon on the roadway. In 2007 dollars that would be $2.20 (it was 5 cents for a horse or cow, 3 for a pig or sheep, and 3 cents for a person)

I thought some historical trivia might be an interesting addition to this story. I don&#039;t think anyone would call $2.20 an excessive charge to cross the bridge in a car these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the bridge opened in 1883, it cost $.10 to drive a one horse wagon on the roadway. In 2007 dollars that would be $2.20 (it was 5 cents for a horse or cow, 3 for a pig or sheep, and 3 cents for a person)</p>
<p>I thought some historical trivia might be an interesting addition to this story. I don&#8217;t think anyone would call $2.20 an excessive charge to cross the bridge in a car these days.</p>
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		<title>By: j. mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>j. mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check that -- here&#039;s the link on the DN site

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/opinions/2003/02/18/2003-02-18_a_cure_for__traffic_congesti.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check that &#8212; here&#8217;s the link on the DN site</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/opinions/2003/02/18/2003-02-18_a_cure_for__traffic_congesti.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/arc.....gesti.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: j. mork</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/10/nyt-in-support-of-bridge-tolls/#comment-58717</link>
		<dc:creator>j. mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Daily News has supported tolls in the past.

Couldn&#039;t find it on the DN site, but I found this record of it:

http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind0302&amp;L=CON-PRIC&amp;E=quoted-printable&amp;P=375615&amp;B=--part1_16b.1ad6a0c0.2b83bbe9_boundary&amp;T=text%2Fplain;%20charset=ISO-8859-1

The date isn&#039;t there, but the copy states that it&#039;s from the day after London congestion pricing went into effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily News has supported tolls in the past.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t find it on the DN site, but I found this record of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind0302&#038;L=CON-PRIC&#038;E=quoted-printable&#038;P=375615&#038;B=--part1_16b.1ad6a0c0.2b83bbe9_boundary&#038;T=text%2Fplain;%20charset=ISO-8859-1" rel="nofollow">http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/w.....ISO-8859-1</a></p>
<p>The date isn&#8217;t there, but the copy states that it&#8217;s from the day after London congestion pricing went into effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/10/nyt-in-support-of-bridge-tolls/#comment-58708</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article doesn&#039;t make two important points. One, it doesn&#039;t address the knee-jerk reaction that would come from the average person reading this: &quot;but I already pay for the roads through [insert your tax here]! But living in New York is already expensive!&quot;

Two, it doesn&#039;t mention that Sheldon Silver claims the state has nothing to do with bridge tolls; the city needs to simply sell the bridges to the MTA, and the MTA is free to impose tolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article doesn&#8217;t make two important points. One, it doesn&#8217;t address the knee-jerk reaction that would come from the average person reading this: &#8220;but I already pay for the roads through [insert your tax here]! But living in New York is already expensive!&#8221;</p>
<p>Two, it doesn&#8217;t mention that Sheldon Silver claims the state has nothing to do with bridge tolls; the city needs to simply sell the bridges to the MTA, and the MTA is free to impose tolls.</p>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/10/nyt-in-support-of-bridge-tolls/#comment-58707</link>
		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, good luck with the Post. The Daily News, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, good luck with the Post. The Daily News, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: herenthere</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/10/nyt-in-support-of-bridge-tolls/#comment-58706</link>
		<dc:creator>herenthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing is, unless the NY Post and Daily News get on board, I doubt bridge tolls stand a chance. Those newspapers offer some of the most sensationalistic journalism there is but appeals to the mass demographic, which are precisely the people who will be most affected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing is, unless the NY Post and Daily News get on board, I doubt bridge tolls stand a chance. Those newspapers offer some of the most sensationalistic journalism there is but appeals to the mass demographic, which are precisely the people who will be most affected.</p>
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