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	<title>Comments on: Poster Boy&#8217;s MoMA attack: Street art or vandalism?</title>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-59071</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you elaborate on that please? I don&#039;t see how advertising in the subways — something that&#039;s been since day one in 1904 — is vandalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you elaborate on that please? I don&#8217;t see how advertising in the subways — something that&#8217;s been since day one in 1904 — is vandalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-59070</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is vandalism to exactly the same extent as the ads themselves are vandalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is vandalism to exactly the same extent as the ads themselves are vandalism.</p>
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		<title>By: MoMA cuts ties with Poster Boy supporter :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-59054</link>
		<dc:creator>MoMA cuts ties with Poster Boy supporter :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Poster Boy attacked the MoMA installation in the Atlantic Ave.-Pacific St. station last week, an interesting tidbit emerged: One of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Poster Boy attacked the MoMA installation in the Atlantic Ave.-Pacific St. station last week, an interesting tidbit emerged: One of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: R2</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-59009</link>
		<dc:creator>R2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if the MTA weren&#039;t averse enough to trying new things, this guy has to pull off a stupid stunt like this.
Really.  REALLY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if the MTA weren&#8217;t averse enough to trying new things, this guy has to pull off a stupid stunt like this.<br />
Really.  REALLY?</p>
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		<title>By: The Secret Conductor</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-59005</link>
		<dc:creator>The Secret Conductor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody finally has noticed this? Well, its mostly on the L line from what I see, but it is spreading. Some of it is funny, while others... no so much.

People have been reconfiguring the ads on the L for a minute. And it is not MoMA doing it either. I am noit sure if its a good idea to speak on it (of which will spread he idea) or to just quielty do something about it (best opion but may backfire due to lack of follow-up cause no one is paying attention to it).

Guess we will find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody finally has noticed this? Well, its mostly on the L line from what I see, but it is spreading. Some of it is funny, while others&#8230; no so much.</p>
<p>People have been reconfiguring the ads on the L for a minute. And it is not MoMA doing it either. I am noit sure if its a good idea to speak on it (of which will spread he idea) or to just quielty do something about it (best opion but may backfire due to lack of follow-up cause no one is paying attention to it).</p>
<p>Guess we will find out.</p>
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		<title>By: TTGZ</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-59003</link>
		<dc:creator>TTGZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This touches on the issue - contentious within the street art community - of whether defacing someone else&#039;s street art counts as &quot;art&quot;. Because, ultimately, that&#039;s what MoMA had engaged in: street art. They were putting art in a public place. 

From my perspective, I&#039;ve never seen any defacements of existing street art that have ever &quot;improved&quot; the art, or &quot;added a statement&quot;. I&#039;m willing to admit that there may be exceptions, but I haven&#039;t seen them. In the majority of cases, it seems to be graffitti artists just riding on the success of someone much more influential than them (defacing a Banksy, for example, is sure to get you noticed...). 

There&#039;s a really sad example of this at a subway station in London, UK: Vauxhall. There was a brick wall, with inset sections forming quasi-&quot;frames&quot;. Since the &#039;80s, an entire platform was filled with beautiful depictions of &quot;London Life&quot; in graffiti style. Station staff left them there, despite it being graffiti. Then about a year ago, some idiot went and drew a massive tag all over it - destroying the art which had stood for about twenty years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This touches on the issue &#8211; contentious within the street art community &#8211; of whether defacing someone else&#8217;s street art counts as &#8220;art&#8221;. Because, ultimately, that&#8217;s what MoMA had engaged in: street art. They were putting art in a public place. </p>
<p>From my perspective, I&#8217;ve never seen any defacements of existing street art that have ever &#8220;improved&#8221; the art, or &#8220;added a statement&#8221;. I&#8217;m willing to admit that there may be exceptions, but I haven&#8217;t seen them. In the majority of cases, it seems to be graffitti artists just riding on the success of someone much more influential than them (defacing a Banksy, for example, is sure to get you noticed&#8230;). </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a really sad example of this at a subway station in London, UK: Vauxhall. There was a brick wall, with inset sections forming quasi-&#8221;frames&#8221;. Since the &#8217;80s, an entire platform was filled with beautiful depictions of &#8220;London Life&#8221; in graffiti style. Station staff left them there, despite it being graffiti. Then about a year ago, some idiot went and drew a massive tag all over it &#8211; destroying the art which had stood for about twenty years.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-58990</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An error. It&#039;s corrected. They were impersonating MoMA employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An error. It&#8217;s corrected. They were impersonating MoMA employees.</p>
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		<title>By: DMEddy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/02/26/poster-boys-moma-attack-street-art-or-vandalism/#comment-58989</link>
		<dc:creator>DMEddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confused: you say the culprits wore MoMA jackets, so then why do you then write &#039;the “artists” who impersonated MTA employees&#039; if no such thing happened? Please clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused: you say the culprits wore MoMA jackets, so then why do you then write &#8216;the “artists” who impersonated MTA employees&#8217; if no such thing happened? Please clarify.</p>
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