Comments on: R160s make their F line debut http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:56:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kevin Xie http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-63096 Kevin Xie Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:17:54 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-63096 I like The New F train. It was hard catching one. until i rode on one at 2 Avenue on the F/V lines. I like The New F train. It was hard catching one. until i rode on one at 2 Avenue on the F/V lines.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-59845 Alon Levy Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:01:08 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-59845 They're already upgrading signaling to reduce headways. Headways on the F are constrained by the QB Express line, which is third in line to receive CBTC after the 7 and L. The truth, though, is that reducing headways to less than 2 minutes is really hard. It's been done before, but usually there's a tradeoff between headways and train length. For instance, Tokyo's most frequent subway line, the Marunouchi Line, has headways of 1:50, but its trains have only 6 60-foot cars. As well, I believe New York ran trains at sub-2:00 headways in its early years, before platforms were lengthened. They’re already upgrading signaling to reduce headways. Headways on the F are constrained by the QB Express line, which is third in line to receive CBTC after the 7 and L.

The truth, though, is that reducing headways to less than 2 minutes is really hard. It’s been done before, but usually there’s a tradeoff between headways and train length. For instance, Tokyo’s most frequent subway line, the Marunouchi Line, has headways of 1:50, but its trains have only 6 60-foot cars. As well, I believe New York ran trains at sub-2:00 headways in its early years, before platforms were lengthened.

]]> By: Gary Reilly http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-59808 Gary Reilly Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:38:05 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-59808 I've ridden a couple of times already, and these cars are far better than the old ones. Much brighter, and it eliminates the old perpendicular seating arrangement that I have always hated. Plus the clear signage on upcoming stops, and clearly audible announcements are a major plus. Two thumbs up. And the Daily News says they are testing 11 car configurations . . . my sense is this is not the best option, but we'll see where it goes. Better to upgrade signaling to reduce headways, than to do major platform expansions at multiple stations, I would imagine. http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/04/02/2009-04-02_nyc_transit_tests_11car_train_as_means_o.html I’ve ridden a couple of times already, and these cars are far better than the old ones. Much brighter, and it eliminates the old perpendicular seating arrangement that I have always hated. Plus the clear signage on upcoming stops, and clearly audible announcements are a major plus.

Two thumbs up.

And the Daily News says they are testing 11 car configurations . . . my sense is this is not the best option, but we’ll see where it goes. Better to upgrade signaling to reduce headways, than to do major platform expansions at multiple stations, I would imagine.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_.....ans_o.html

]]> By: Matt http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-59804 Matt Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:17:12 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-59804 I rode an R160 F train to work yesterday. Not all the announcements were working right and when we got to Bergen St, the display system suddenly claimed we were at W 8 St - NY Aquarium. I'm sure they'll get the kinks worked out in good order though. I rode an R160 F train to work yesterday. Not all the announcements were working right and when we got to Bergen St, the display system suddenly claimed we were at W 8 St – NY Aquarium.

I’m sure they’ll get the kinks worked out in good order though.

]]> By: Anon http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-59800 Anon Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:57:43 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-59800 http://www.mta.info/mta/ind-perform/annual/nyct-s-mdbf.htm http://www.mta.info/mta/ind-pe.....s-mdbf.htm

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-59798 Alon Levy Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:51:47 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-59798 Do you have a link? It's fascinating and I'd like to see if there's a source that gives you these statistics for all train types and all months. Do you have a link? It’s fascinating and I’d like to see if there’s a source that gives you these statistics for all train types and all months.

]]> By: Anon http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/01/r160s-make-their-f-line-debut/#comment-59796 Anon Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:46:28 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2622#comment-59796 R160s also had a 1,000,000+ (1 Million!) MDBF for month of February. This is *not* an April Fools. R160s also had a 1,000,000+ (1 Million!) MDBF for month of February.

This is *not* an April Fools.

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