Comments on: For New York’s future, what role BRT? http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:07:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: StreetFilms: Bronx riders love Select Bus Service :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59966 StreetFilms: Bronx riders love Select Bus Service :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:19:56 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59966 [...] bus rapid transit. Bronx riders love this speedy and efficient bus, and as DOT and the MTA have ambitions expansion plans in the works, the rest of the city should soon too. Check it out. Categories : [...] [...] bus rapid transit. Bronx riders love this speedy and efficient bus, and as DOT and the MTA have ambitions expansion plans in the works, the rest of the city should soon too. Check it out. Categories : [...]

]]> By: Cap'n Transit http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59853 Cap'n Transit Sat, 04 Apr 2009 04:33:26 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59853 The way the MTA's done prepayment, you just punch your ticket and wait for the bus. You don't have to stay in a small area while you wait. The way the MTA’s done prepayment, you just punch your ticket and wait for the bus. You don’t have to stay in a small area while you wait.

]]> By: Rhywun http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59841 Rhywun Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:06:07 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59841 Maybe after the public gets used to the various experiments we're seeing all over the city lately, one of those will become politically feasible. Maybe after the public gets used to the various experiments we’re seeing all over the city lately, one of those will become politically feasible.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59837 Alon Levy Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:54:22 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59837 Light rail and true BRT tend to cost the same per km - about $30 million, I believe. Light rail and true BRT tend to cost the same per km – about $30 million, I believe.

]]> By: Nick http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59836 Nick Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:19:17 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59836 Cleveland's HealthLine seems like a solid implementation of BRT and NYC's wider avenues could definitely handle similar solutions. Cleveland’s HealthLine seems like a solid implementation of BRT and NYC’s wider avenues could definitely handle similar solutions.

]]> By: Rhywun http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59835 Rhywun Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:59:46 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59835 Yeah, it's not like being crowded up next to some creep on a packed subway train is any better. Yeah, it’s not like being crowded up next to some creep on a packed subway train is any better.

]]> By: dtribe http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59833 dtribe Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:06:05 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59833 Living in Boston, I'm skeptical of BRT given the failure that is the Silver Line. MBTA officials like to put the Silver Line on the rapid transit maps, which both confuses visitors and adds to the disappointment. However, what I do like and think would work great for NYC is what Paris has done, which is provide dedicated bus/bike lanes (wide enough for a bus to safely pass bikes) on major avenues. These are physically separated by a several inch median rather than just solid lines, and both separate buses from most of the hassles of street traffic (aside from lights) and provide a safer lane for bikers, since bus drivers are specifically trained on driving in these lanes. Living in Boston, I’m skeptical of BRT given the failure that is the Silver Line. MBTA officials like to put the Silver Line on the rapid transit maps, which both confuses visitors and adds to the disappointment. However, what I do like and think would work great for NYC is what Paris has done, which is provide dedicated bus/bike lanes (wide enough for a bus to safely pass bikes) on major avenues. These are physically separated by a several inch median rather than just solid lines, and both separate buses from most of the hassles of street traffic (aside from lights) and provide a safer lane for bikers, since bus drivers are specifically trained on driving in these lanes.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59832 Benjamin Kabak Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:07:53 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59832 I'm a little confused by New Yorkers' thinking here. You don't want BRT because you're afraid of <em>maybe</em> getting stuck somewhere with some sketchy guy? That hardly seems like a good reason to forego transit improvements. I’m a little confused by New Yorkers’ thinking here. You don’t want BRT because you’re afraid of maybe getting stuck somewhere with some sketchy guy? That hardly seems like a good reason to forego transit improvements.

]]> By: rhywun http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59830 rhywun Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:45:51 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59830 I often take the "unsexy" bus around Bay Ridge over the dark, dirty, nasty-smelling R train. New York should be proud of its buses: they're cleaner and overall more "pleasant" than any other American city I've lived in or visited. That said, I'm particularly excited to see what this service can do in areas of Brooklyn and Queens or for multi-borough trips that currently lack subway service. Imagine a route from Brooklyn to Queens, bypassing Manhattan and incidentally relieving some of the pressure on Manhattan subways caused by all the through-traffic. Yeah, rail is better but while we wait decades for that to happen, why not make these improvements <i>now</i>? It's a no-brainer. I often take the “unsexy” bus around Bay Ridge over the dark, dirty, nasty-smelling R train. New York should be proud of its buses: they’re cleaner and overall more “pleasant” than any other American city I’ve lived in or visited.

That said, I’m particularly excited to see what this service can do in areas of Brooklyn and Queens or for multi-borough trips that currently lack subway service. Imagine a route from Brooklyn to Queens, bypassing Manhattan and incidentally relieving some of the pressure on Manhattan subways caused by all the through-traffic. Yeah, rail is better but while we wait decades for that to happen, why not make these improvements now? It’s a no-brainer.

]]> By: kynes http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/03/for-new-yorks-future-what-role-brt/#comment-59816 kynes Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:53:38 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2638#comment-59816 I think BRT is a neat idea but I wouldn't like being stuck in a small sidewalk preloading area with a creep. I think BRT is a neat idea but I wouldn’t like being stuck in a small sidewalk preloading area with a creep.

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