Comments on: The Graffiti Debate: Glorifying art or vandalism? http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:58:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: flapjack smooth http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-245748 flapjack smooth Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:01:58 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-245748 graffiti and vandalism are one and the same and should be treated with the respect that an art movement deserves. short of the christian dark ages, this is the first time that actual artists are being punished for making art. the word vandalism is taken from a germanic tribe that defaced rome after its fall. it was an extension of the freedom from the tyranny that was roman rule. the world is very "roman" right now. corporations can vandalize our cities with all the advertising they want, but we cant? the big business' have invaded my everyday life, and yours. companies spill oil and spit smoke into the air. they lay waste to forest's, and destroy mountains. and all of you people are offended that someone with real talent has gone and given you some visual stimulation. graffiti doesnt matter to most really. as long as you have greys anatomy, and dancing with the stars, and mcdonalds. the majority dont care about the wars and the hunger and the disease in the world. vandals do. vandals are smarter then all of you mindless consumption zombies. if you cant take the gift of graffiti for what it is. (a message that the system needs to come down a bit) then you are already lost. you already dont matter. you already gave in and became some fat boring nobody with a crap job that pays for your credit cards and your suv's. but when the hunger, and the wars and the diseases come here, dont say you wernt warned! the writing is literally on the walls. graffiti and vandalism are one and the same and should be treated with the respect that an art movement deserves. short of the christian dark ages, this is the first time that actual artists are being punished for making art. the word vandalism is taken from a germanic tribe that defaced rome after its fall. it was an extension of the freedom from the tyranny that was roman rule. the world is very “roman” right now. corporations can vandalize our cities with all the advertising they want, but we cant? the big business’ have invaded my everyday life, and yours. companies spill oil and spit smoke into the air. they lay waste to forest’s, and destroy mountains. and all of you people are offended that someone with real talent has gone and given you some visual stimulation. graffiti doesnt matter to most really. as long as you have greys anatomy, and dancing with the stars, and mcdonalds. the majority dont care about the wars and the hunger and the disease in the world. vandals do. vandals are smarter then all of you mindless consumption zombies. if you cant take the gift of graffiti for what it is. (a message that the system needs to come down a bit) then you are already lost. you already dont matter. you already gave in and became some fat boring nobody with a crap job that pays for your credit cards and your suv’s. but when the hunger, and the wars and the diseases come here, dont say you wernt warned! the writing is literally on the walls.

]]> By: Ben Dover http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-229035 Ben Dover Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:17:04 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-229035 Im gay. Im gay.

]]> By: Matt http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-223797 Matt Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:27:40 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-223797 Graffiti is art...i dont understand why people get arrested for painting walls...but there are people doing fireworks and smoking, thats polluting the earth, and they dont get arrested Graffiti is art…i dont understand why people get arrested for painting walls…but there are people doing fireworks and smoking, thats polluting the earth, and they dont get arrested

]]> By: Hooks http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-220678 Hooks Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:58:22 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-220678 I tagg....its enjoyable...i also do street art....its amazing too look at I tagg….its enjoyable…i also do street art….its amazing too look at

]]> By: Skatta http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-220674 Skatta Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:55:45 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-220674 Should Graffiti artist and taggers be proecuted, or should they be catagorised in 'vandals' or 'artists' Should Graffiti artist and taggers be proecuted, or should they be catagorised in ‘vandals’ or ‘artists’

]]> By: Skatta http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-220672 Skatta Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:51:10 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-220672 Tagging is a signature or gang symbol/sign, graffiti art is the urban version Fibbonaci or Van Gogh. Even if it is on private property. This the future way of art. Tagging is a signature or gang symbol/sign, graffiti art is the urban version Fibbonaci or Van Gogh. Even if it is on private property. This the future way of art.

]]> By: Jesus http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-217126 Jesus Tue, 04 Oct 2011 08:31:49 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-217126 I agree it is vadlesim I agree it is vadlesim

]]> By: The LAWS http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-201103 The LAWS Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:14:46 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-201103 Ben, you are an idiot. Graffiti artists do NOT stimulate the economy nor do they create jobs. They end up costing municipalities thousands of dollars to clean up the vandalism because some can't afford to hire those companies to clean graffiti and instead leave it up to Parks Departments or Street Departments, who are already stretched thin. If anything, they give workers unnecessary overtime and take away from more important tasks. Most graffiti is crap, but most legal murals are awesome and legitimate, but I guess it isn't cool because some tool sneaks out at night to spraypaint a building without permission. Even if it is a nice piece of art, there are better ways to display it. At least in a museum or local gallery it's not going to get painted over and it gives back instead of taking money away from municipalities. Ben, you are an idiot. Graffiti artists do NOT stimulate the economy nor do they create jobs. They end up costing municipalities thousands of dollars to clean up the vandalism because some can’t afford to hire those companies to clean graffiti and instead leave it up to Parks Departments or Street Departments, who are already stretched thin. If anything, they give workers unnecessary overtime and take away from more important tasks.

Most graffiti is crap, but most legal murals are awesome and legitimate, but I guess it isn’t cool because some tool sneaks out at night to spraypaint a building without permission. Even if it is a nice piece of art, there are better ways to display it. At least in a museum or local gallery it’s not going to get painted over and it gives back instead of taking money away from municipalities.

]]> By: Plarnish http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-195575 Plarnish Tue, 03 May 2011 23:24:14 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-195575 How many cars do you see with graffiti on them? I mean seriously. Of course we would all be pissed if our cars had graffiti on them but it generally doesn't happen. That's an idiotic argument. I really dislike people like you. How many cars do you see with graffiti on them? I mean seriously. Of course we would all be pissed if our cars had graffiti on them but it generally doesn’t happen. That’s an idiotic argument. I really dislike people like you.

]]> By: salvador Chavez http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04/15/the-graffiti-debate-glorifying-art-or-vandalism/#comment-192104 salvador Chavez Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:58:40 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2686#comment-192104 So is Graffiti an art opr crime?? I need Advic im writing an arguement for my soph Paper and i really need some good oint of views? So is Graffiti an art opr crime?? I need Advic im writing an arguement for my soph Paper and i really need some good oint of views?

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