Comments on: Assessing the fate of the 7 line http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 26 May 2012 00:19:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60726 Jerrold Thu, 07 May 2009 16:19:28 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60726 That's good to hear; I hope they start using one of those numbers for the Flushing express. Coming to think of it, they could even use #9 for the Flushing express because it no longer exists as a "skip-stop" #1 train. That’s good to hear; I hope they start using one of those numbers for the Flushing express.
Coming to think of it, they could even use #9 for the Flushing express because it no longer exists as a “skip-stop” #1 train.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60723 Alon Levy Thu, 07 May 2009 16:15:03 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60723 No, they can still feed it into the existing station, so that the 7 extension will go underneath. It's only if you want an entirely new station that the 7 extension becomes a problem - without the extension, the new station can be 50 feet underground, just like the 7, but with the extension, it needs to be deeper. No, they can still feed it into the existing station, so that the 7 extension will go underneath. It’s only if you want an entirely new station that the 7 extension becomes a problem – without the extension, the new station can be 50 feet underground, just like the 7, but with the extension, it needs to be deeper.

]]> By: Kid Twist http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60719 Kid Twist Thu, 07 May 2009 15:51:04 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60719 I've heard there are purple 11s on the rollsigns that they could use for the Flushing express. I think there are other unused numbers also: a green 8 for the Pelham express; a green 10 for the Bronx Thru Express (the rush-hour 5 service to 238th/Nereid); maybe some others. I’ve heard there are purple 11s on the rollsigns that they could use for the Flushing express.
I think there are other unused numbers also: a green 8 for the Pelham express; a green 10 for the Bronx Thru Express (the rush-hour 5 service to 238th/Nereid); maybe some others.

]]> By: Adam http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60708 Adam Thu, 07 May 2009 12:39:08 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60708 And the reason they have to build the deep underground station? The 7 extension. And the reason they have to build the deep underground station? The 7 extension.

]]> By: Kevin http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60700 Kevin Thu, 07 May 2009 04:24:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60700 There is and 6 Express. It's the peak direction express service in the Bronx. The Express suffix is only for IRT lines that have all day (6AM-10PM) peak-direction express service. It doesn't apply to most other lines because they have different service patterns or full time express trains. There is and 6 Express. It’s the peak direction express service in the Bronx.

The Express suffix is only for IRT lines that have all day (6AM-10PM) peak-direction express service. It doesn’t apply to most other lines because they have different service patterns or full time express trains.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60697 Alon Levy Thu, 07 May 2009 01:16:49 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60697 It's not the 7 extension that's increasing the cost - it's the delusion that a new station deep underground is a better idea than running the tunnels into the existing Penn Station tracks. It’s not the 7 extension that’s increasing the cost – it’s the delusion that a new station deep underground is a better idea than running the tunnels into the existing Penn Station tracks.

]]> By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60695 Jerrold Thu, 07 May 2009 00:43:28 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60695 I forgot to add that such an example, a LONG time ago, was on the Brighton Line in Brooklyn. The D was the Brighton express in those days, and the M was the Brighton local. And at that time, the QB ran rush hours only, in the direction of the rush. On weekends, there was only the D, running as a Brighton local. I forgot to add that such an example, a LONG time ago, was on the Brighton Line in Brooklyn.
The D was the Brighton express in those days, and the M was the Brighton local.
And at that time, the QB ran rush hours only, in the direction of the rush.
On weekends, there was only the D, running as a Brighton local.

]]> By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60694 Jerrold Thu, 07 May 2009 00:37:20 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60694 Interesting point, but I guess we have a difference of opinion. I don't think it would be such a pain. I remember that at various times in my life, there were train lines that would run only in rush hour, and only in the direction of the rush. Interesting point, but I guess we have a difference of opinion.
I don’t think it would be such a pain.

I remember that at various times in my life, there were train lines that would run only in rush hour, and only in the direction of the rush.

]]> By: Scott E http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60693 Scott E Wed, 06 May 2009 23:55:18 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60693 I'd thought of that as well, and the reason is because the other lines you mentioned don't follow the same route for the entire stretch. Yes, the 2 and 3 follow the 1 between Chambers St and 96th Streets, but then they diverge along their own routes. Actually, in parts of Brooklyn, the 2/3 are local where the 4/5 is express. Also, the 7 Express only runs in one direction at a time, on the center track. It would be a real pain to have the Manhattan-bound 8 turn into a Queens-bound 7, then back to a Manhattan-bound 8 again. I’d thought of that as well, and the reason is because the other lines you mentioned don’t follow the same route for the entire stretch. Yes, the 2 and 3 follow the 1 between Chambers St and 96th Streets, but then they diverge along their own routes. Actually, in parts of Brooklyn, the 2/3 are local where the 4/5 is express.

Also, the 7 Express only runs in one direction at a time, on the center track. It would be a real pain to have the Manhattan-bound 8 turn into a Queens-bound 7, then back to a Manhattan-bound 8 again.

]]> By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/05/06/assessing-the-fate-of-the-7-line/#comment-60689 Jerrold Wed, 06 May 2009 23:04:51 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=2828#comment-60689 Benjamin, did THIS ever occur to you, or to anybody else here? Why does the Transit Authority even call it the #7 express? I mean, they have the #4 and #5. They don't call either one of them the #6 Express. They have the #2 and #3. They don't call either one of them the #1 Express. They have the A. They don't call it the C express. They have the B. They don't call it the Q express I really can't understand why the #7 Express is NOT called the #8 or the #10. Benjamin, did THIS ever occur to you, or to anybody else here?

Why does the Transit Authority even call it the #7 express?
I mean, they have the #4 and #5. They don’t call either one of them the #6 Express.
They have the #2 and #3. They don’t call either one of them the #1 Express.
They have the A. They don’t call it the C express.
They have the B. They don’t call it the Q express

I really can’t understand why the #7 Express is NOT called the #8 or the #10.

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