Comments on: Less Transit money leads to dirtier stations http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/ A New York City Subway Blog Fri, 25 May 2012 20:36:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: From Transit, a new attempt at cleanliness :: Second Ave. Sagas http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-77234 From Transit, a new attempt at cleanliness :: Second Ave. Sagas Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:14:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-77234 [...] In 2008, then-Transit President Howard Roberts pledged to clean the stations before he ran into budget cuts that saw numerous cleaning shifts unfilled. The stations, anecdotally, remain as messy as they ever [...] [...] In 2008, then-Transit President Howard Roberts pledged to clean the stations before he ran into budget cuts that saw numerous cleaning shifts unfilled. The stations, anecdotally, remain as messy as they ever [...]

]]> By: Paul B http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-62143 Paul B Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:37:40 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-62143 I was going to suggest more tickets issued for littering. But if the cops are littering as well, what's the point. I was going to suggest more tickets issued for littering. But if the cops are littering as well, what’s the point.

]]> By: Straphangers unveil subway car cleanliness survey :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-62068 Straphangers unveil subway car cleanliness survey :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:01:15 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-62068 [...] times. Still, subway platforms are among the dirtiest parts of the city, and with Transit planning a reduction in the number of cleaners, they won’t look much better any time [...] [...] times. Still, subway platforms are among the dirtiest parts of the city, and with Transit planning a reduction in the number of cleaners, they won’t look much better any time [...]

]]> By: Grrrumpy Miner http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-62015 Grrrumpy Miner Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:25:54 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-62015 I often tend to wonder if customers treat their very own living rooms the same way they treat the stations or the trains.I was working a station a few years back and a group of girls came in and tore down service posters which led me to ask them if they would do the same with posters on their walls and got a NO.I than told them to treat the posters like you would treat yours and got a "Whatever" out of one of them.Last monday on the 2 train in the Bronx,a guy was having a chicken and rice dinner,after he was done with his chicken he conveniently threw the rice under the seat.Most of you blame the cleaners for being lazy but the people you need to blame is the person you see in the mirror everyday. I often tend to wonder if customers treat their very own living rooms the same way they treat the stations or the trains.I was working a station a few years back and a group of girls came in and tore down service posters which led me to ask them if they would do the same with posters on their walls and got a NO.I than told them to treat the posters like you would treat yours and got a “Whatever” out of one of them.Last monday on the 2 train in the Bronx,a guy was having a chicken and rice dinner,after he was done with his chicken he conveniently threw the rice under the seat.Most of you blame the cleaners for being lazy but the people you need to blame is the person you see in the mirror everyday.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-61981 Alon Levy Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:49:25 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-61981 In Italy, the culture isn't very respectful of rules. I don't remember Milan's streets being cleaner than New York's. In fact, Manhattan is cleaner than most cities I've been in - even Singapore isn't much cleaner than New York. It's just underground that New York is so dirty. In Italy, the culture isn’t very respectful of rules. I don’t remember Milan’s streets being cleaner than New York’s. In fact, Manhattan is cleaner than most cities I’ve been in – even Singapore isn’t much cleaner than New York. It’s just underground that New York is so dirty.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-61959 Benjamin Kabak Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:57:15 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-61959 Here's the thing: When I see MTA employees and police officers throw trash onto the ground or the tracks, why would I as a straphanger behave any differently? The people in charge flaunt common decency and the rules, and those actions simply lead to more of a mess. Here’s the thing: When I see MTA employees and police officers throw trash onto the ground or the tracks, why would I as a straphanger behave any differently? The people in charge flaunt common decency and the rules, and those actions simply lead to more of a mess.

]]> By: rhywun http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-61958 rhywun Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:54:49 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-61958 Partly, but it's cultural too. In some other cultures, for example Germany (a country I have lived in), you would not see so much littering, and at the same time you would see more cleaners. It's part of our nature--we just don't care so much about the appearance of our surroundings. And it's a vicious circle. People see dirty stations, and they throw their garbage everywhere because it's apparent no one cares. Partly, but it’s cultural too. In some other cultures, for example Germany (a country I have lived in), you would not see so much littering, and at the same time you would see more cleaners. It’s part of our nature–we just don’t care so much about the appearance of our surroundings. And it’s a vicious circle. People see dirty stations, and they throw their garbage everywhere because it’s apparent no one cares.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-61952 Alon Levy Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:16:16 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-61952 If Italians can run clean subways, so can Americans. It's not ethnic, but managerial. If Italians can run clean subways, so can Americans. It’s not ethnic, but managerial.

]]> By: Ariel http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-61951 Ariel Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:59:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-61951 This is where the slush funds the State Senators get for transit would come in handy. Instead of giving it only to suburban senators, http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/15/suburban-rail-enjoys-far-fewer-riders-more-slush-fund-money/ it should be distributed more evenly to NYC senators who can place more trash cans to keep stations cleaner. This is where the slush funds the State Senators get for transit would come in handy. Instead of giving it only to suburban senators,

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it should be distributed more evenly to NYC senators who can place more trash cans to keep stations cleaner.

]]> By: Cen-Sin http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/22/less-transit-money-leads-to-dirtier-stations/#comment-61945 Cen-Sin Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:40:01 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3160#comment-61945 I so envy other countries' transit systems. I wonder if it's a New York thing, or something deeper like racial or ethnic behaviors and attitudes concerning cleanliness. I so envy other countries’ transit systems. I wonder if it’s a New York thing, or something deeper like racial or ethnic behaviors and attitudes concerning cleanliness.

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