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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62296</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 15% discount is shockingly regressive. How many times have I seen poor people (how could I possibly know that) feeding $2 into the machine, basically throwing away 30 cents each time?

I think it&#039;s the city&#039;s way of subtly taxing tourists as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 15% discount is shockingly regressive. How many times have I seen poor people (how could I possibly know that) feeding $2 into the machine, basically throwing away 30 cents each time?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s the city&#8217;s way of subtly taxing tourists as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62181</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You shouldn&#039;t include the free transfers. The MTA isn&#039;t doing people special favors by letting them transfer from one bus to another for free; it&#039;s fulfilling its job giving them access to transit. Without double-counting free transfers, the real fare is way higher than $1.56: just using an Unlimited Monthly the average number of times gives a fare of $1.59!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t include the free transfers. The MTA isn&#8217;t doing people special favors by letting them transfer from one bus to another for free; it&#8217;s fulfilling its job giving them access to transit. Without double-counting free transfers, the real fare is way higher than $1.56: just using an Unlimited Monthly the average number of times gives a fare of $1.59!</p>
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		<title>By: Raising the fares but not telling anyone :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62176</link>
		<dc:creator>Raising the fares but not telling anyone :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we all know because we pay attention to these things, the MTA raised their fares yesterday at 12:01 a.m. Throughout the system, stations featured SubTalk posters with the new fare [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we all know because we pay attention to these things, the MTA raised their fares yesterday at 12:01 a.m. Throughout the system, stations featured SubTalk posters with the new fare [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JMP</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62169</link>
		<dc:creator>JMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working from home, I don&#039;t ride the trains that often anymore. But I had to go on an excursion yesterday. I had forgotten the details of the fare hike, but remembered it was happening yesterday, so I went to the MTA website.

Would it have killed the MTA to have posted a prominent link on their website about the new fare info, with a clear label? Alternately, was it foolish of me to assume that mta.info would be the quickest and easiest way to find the details of the new fares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working from home, I don&#8217;t ride the trains that often anymore. But I had to go on an excursion yesterday. I had forgotten the details of the fare hike, but remembered it was happening yesterday, so I went to the MTA website.</p>
<p>Would it have killed the MTA to have posted a prominent link on their website about the new fare info, with a clear label? Alternately, was it foolish of me to assume that mta.info would be the quickest and easiest way to find the details of the new fares?</p>
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		<title>By: crescent</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62155</link>
		<dc:creator>crescent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Ben, that would be too much to ask a New Yorker wouldn&#039;t it?  To acknowledge when their transit system is giving them a deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ben, that would be too much to ask a New Yorker wouldn&#8217;t it?  To acknowledge when their transit system is giving them a deal?</p>
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		<title>By: crescent</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62154</link>
		<dc:creator>crescent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I&#039;d offer it for $50 on craigslist real quick.  The market is already flooded with them over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I&#8217;d offer it for $50 on craigslist real quick.  The market is already flooded with them over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62151</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll post more about this later in the week, but if you mail them back to the MTA, you&#039;ll get a refund. As shocking as it sounds, that actually works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll post more about this later in the week, but if you mail them back to the MTA, you&#8217;ll get a refund. As shocking as it sounds, that actually works.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62149</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should just get rid of the bonuses. I know many people like it because it supposedly rewards more frequent riders of the subway, but that&#039;s what the unlimited cards are for. Getting rid of the bonuses would just make things a lot simpler and more transparent. They make people think the fare is higher than it actually is -- most people don&#039;t realize how much they&#039;re saving with the bonus, and they complain when the fare goes up 25 cents, but wouldn&#039;t complain as much if the base fare stayed $2 but the bonus was eliminated. I don&#039;t know how much that would raise income for the MTA overall, but an extra 25 cents is less than 15% of the $2 fare. Of course, the 15% was only on purchases $7 and up, so the MTA isn&#039;t losing 15% of all of their pay-per-ride revenue, but it still would probably be a significant amount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should just get rid of the bonuses. I know many people like it because it supposedly rewards more frequent riders of the subway, but that&#8217;s what the unlimited cards are for. Getting rid of the bonuses would just make things a lot simpler and more transparent. They make people think the fare is higher than it actually is &#8212; most people don&#8217;t realize how much they&#8217;re saving with the bonus, and they complain when the fare goes up 25 cents, but wouldn&#8217;t complain as much if the base fare stayed $2 but the bonus was eliminated. I don&#8217;t know how much that would raise income for the MTA overall, but an extra 25 cents is less than 15% of the $2 fare. Of course, the 15% was only on purchases $7 and up, so the MTA isn&#8217;t losing 15% of all of their pay-per-ride revenue, but it still would probably be a significant amount.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/06/28/new-fares-now-in-effect/#comment-62147</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two $81 TransitChek cards in my sock drawer cause I&#039;ve been out of town on business and haven&#039;t been able to use them... not sure what the heck to do about them. Won&#039;t be back working in the city for another two weeks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two $81 TransitChek cards in my sock drawer cause I&#8217;ve been out of town on business and haven&#8217;t been able to use them&#8230; not sure what the heck to do about them. Won&#8217;t be back working in the city for another two weeks!</p>
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