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		<title>By: RW</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-64391</link>
		<dc:creator>RW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: The rule on eating in the DC subway has not changed and they do still arrest people for eating or drinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: The rule on eating in the DC subway has not changed and they do still arrest people for eating or drinking.</p>
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		<title>By: johnbyronkuhner.com / Subway Kerfuffle.</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-63052</link>
		<dc:creator>johnbyronkuhner.com / Subway Kerfuffle.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/   Post a comment &#8212; Trackback URI RSS 2.0 feed for these comments This entry (permalink) was posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, at 3:56 pm by jbkuhner. Filed in Dumb Stuff, Political Comments and tagged F Train, Gothamist, John Kuhner, Subway. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/" rel="nofollow">http://secondavenuesagas.com/2.....derground/</a>   Post a comment &mdash; Trackback URI RSS 2.0 feed for these comments This entry (permalink) was posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, at 3:56 pm by jbkuhner. Filed in Dumb Stuff, Political Comments and tagged F Train, Gothamist, John Kuhner, Subway. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vitriol &#171; eVerbosity</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62643</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitriol &#171; eVerbosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The background for today&#8217;s word comes from a recent blog post by John Kuhner.  Mr Kuhner was recently fined $50 by the Transit Police for resting his feet up against a seat on the train early in the morning.  His post was picked up in an article in the Gothamist.  Go to both sites, but in particular, read the comments on the Gothamist.  Many, starting with the first, are the embodiment of the word vitriol, which I can only best define as a depth of hatred but not necessarily a depth of thought.  The word was the first that came to mind to both John and me when reading them.  BTW, A less biting discussion occurs at the subway blog Second Avenue Sagas. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The background for today&#8217;s word comes from a recent blog post by John Kuhner.  Mr Kuhner was recently fined $50 by the Transit Police for resting his feet up against a seat on the train early in the morning.  His post was picked up in an article in the Gothamist.  Go to both sites, but in particular, read the comments on the Gothamist.  Many, starting with the first, are the embodiment of the word vitriol, which I can only best define as a depth of hatred but not necessarily a depth of thought.  The word was the first that came to mind to both John and me when reading them.  BTW, A less biting discussion occurs at the subway blog Second Avenue Sagas. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tench</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62619</link>
		<dc:creator>Tench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little unfair to assume that, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little unfair to assume that, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62501</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might also be about keeping the seats clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might also be about keeping the seats clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62500</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell, they all simultaneously switched to that line a few summers ago.  It was cute the first time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, they all simultaneously switched to that line a few summers ago.  It was cute the first time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott E</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62496</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I guess you&#039;ve never seen the &quot;honest&quot; subway vendor on the 3 train.  &quot;My name is... and I&#039;m selling candy... not for no charity, not for no sports team.  I&#039;m selling it for myself to make me some money and keep me out of trouble.&quot;
That &quot;kid&quot; cracks me up every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I guess you&#8217;ve never seen the &#8220;honest&#8221; subway vendor on the 3 train.  &#8220;My name is&#8230; and I&#8217;m selling candy&#8230; not for no charity, not for no sports team.  I&#8217;m selling it for myself to make me some money and keep me out of trouble.&#8221;<br />
That &#8220;kid&#8221; cracks me up every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerrold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerrold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At that hour, the train must have been mostly deserted, so why bother with super-enforcement of rules against people putting their feet up on the seats?  Those rules were presumably intended to prevent people from taking up more than one seat when that means that other passengers will have to stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At that hour, the train must have been mostly deserted, so why bother with super-enforcement of rules against people putting their feet up on the seats?  Those rules were presumably intended to prevent people from taking up more than one seat when that means that other passengers will have to stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62486</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the rules, though I had an amusing situation where I almost got in trouble. A few years ago, I arranged to meet someone selling a bike at a Brooklyn subway station. I thought we would meet on the corner aboveground, so after waiting for a long time, I went back down and found him on the concourse with the bike. To see if it fit, I straddled the bike, and lo and behold, a cop was standing nearby and told me this wasn&#039;t allowed. I said I wasn&#039;t riding it but he pointed to the new rules (conveniently posted right behind me) that prohibit straddling a bike. I immediately apologized and headed upstairs with the bike (and its seller) and avoided a ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the rules, though I had an amusing situation where I almost got in trouble. A few years ago, I arranged to meet someone selling a bike at a Brooklyn subway station. I thought we would meet on the corner aboveground, so after waiting for a long time, I went back down and found him on the concourse with the bike. To see if it fit, I straddled the bike, and lo and behold, a cop was standing nearby and told me this wasn&#8217;t allowed. I said I wasn&#8217;t riding it but he pointed to the new rules (conveniently posted right behind me) that prohibit straddling a bike. I immediately apologized and headed upstairs with the bike (and its seller) and avoided a ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/08/knowing-the-rules-underground/#comment-62485</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The rules are out there. Learn ‘em.&lt;/em&gt;

I’m surprised at you, Ben. Since when does this site blindly assume that if it’s a rule, it must be correct?

Remember when Washington police handcuffed and arrested an 8-year-old girl for eating a single french fry in the subway? Yeah, technically the law was on their side. That didn&#039;t mean it made sense. (This particular rule was later changed.)

If indeed all this guy did was put his feet on the seat in a near-empty subway car, then the police response was not appropriate. Either we can save money by getting rid of police we don’t need, or they’re spending their time on the wrong problems. At some point, common sense needs to come into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The rules are out there. Learn ‘em.</em></p>
<p>I’m surprised at you, Ben. Since when does this site blindly assume that if it’s a rule, it must be correct?</p>
<p>Remember when Washington police handcuffed and arrested an 8-year-old girl for eating a single french fry in the subway? Yeah, technically the law was on their side. That didn&#8217;t mean it made sense. (This particular rule was later changed.)</p>
<p>If indeed all this guy did was put his feet on the seat in a near-empty subway car, then the police response was not appropriate. Either we can save money by getting rid of police we don’t need, or they’re spending their time on the wrong problems. At some point, common sense needs to come into play.</p>
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