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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/17/the-top-challenges-that-await-jay-walder/#comment-62849</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s POP (Proof of Payment), not an honor system.  Payment is absolutely required, and violators are fined, if caught.  It&#039;s no more an honor system than, say, parking meters.

We have POP in New York as well, on Select Bus System in the Bronx.  SBS as it exists today is a bit clunky - everybody, regardless of MetroCard type, has to get a paper receipt from a machine before boarding the bus.  That&#039;s time-consuming (think about a large crowd running off the subway as the bus is pulling up - even if they all get to the bus stop in time, some of them are going to miss the bus while they frantically line up to swipe their cards at the two machines) and not as green as it could be.  In cities I&#039;ve been to with contactless cards, the payment/validation process is a lot faster (sometimes the card validators are even on the bus itself), there&#039;s no paper, and people with unlimited cards don&#039;t have to do anything at all.  The inspectors have portable card readers that can determine whether a card is properly validated for a given ride.

Of course, as long as SBS is restricted to one bus line in the entire city, that alone isn&#039;t much of a motivation.  But I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing SBS-style fare payment extended to the rest of the city.

Personally, I think Chambers Street is absolutely beautiful.  It&#039;s filthy and in generally poor shape, but if it were fixed up and given a thorough cleaning job, I&#039;d be thrilled.  South Ferry is too, um, white for my taste.  But that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s POP (Proof of Payment), not an honor system.  Payment is absolutely required, and violators are fined, if caught.  It&#8217;s no more an honor system than, say, parking meters.</p>
<p>We have POP in New York as well, on Select Bus System in the Bronx.  SBS as it exists today is a bit clunky &#8211; everybody, regardless of MetroCard type, has to get a paper receipt from a machine before boarding the bus.  That&#8217;s time-consuming (think about a large crowd running off the subway as the bus is pulling up &#8211; even if they all get to the bus stop in time, some of them are going to miss the bus while they frantically line up to swipe their cards at the two machines) and not as green as it could be.  In cities I&#8217;ve been to with contactless cards, the payment/validation process is a lot faster (sometimes the card validators are even on the bus itself), there&#8217;s no paper, and people with unlimited cards don&#8217;t have to do anything at all.  The inspectors have portable card readers that can determine whether a card is properly validated for a given ride.</p>
<p>Of course, as long as SBS is restricted to one bus line in the entire city, that alone isn&#8217;t much of a motivation.  But I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing SBS-style fare payment extended to the rest of the city.</p>
<p>Personally, I think Chambers Street is absolutely beautiful.  It&#8217;s filthy and in generally poor shape, but if it were fixed up and given a thorough cleaning job, I&#8217;d be thrilled.  South Ferry is too, um, white for my taste.  But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/17/the-top-challenges-that-await-jay-walder/#comment-62822</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contactless cards can be tapped through a wallet. You don&#039;t have to take them out. In Singapore people would tap through their wallets all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contactless cards can be tapped through a wallet. You don&#8217;t have to take them out. In Singapore people would tap through their wallets all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/17/the-top-challenges-that-await-jay-walder/#comment-62819</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really agree about the contactless cards... even though they&#039;re &quot;contactless&quot;, you still have to take it out of your wallet and tap it against the reader for it to work.  I don&#039;t see how that&#039;s much easier to use than swiping the card because I still have to dig into my wallet to fish it out.  I&#039;d really be impressed if I could just walk through the turnstile without having to take the card out, but otherwise it doesn&#039;t seem much different than the current system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really agree about the contactless cards&#8230; even though they&#8217;re &#8220;contactless&#8221;, you still have to take it out of your wallet and tap it against the reader for it to work.  I don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s much easier to use than swiping the card because I still have to dig into my wallet to fish it out.  I&#8217;d really be impressed if I could just walk through the turnstile without having to take the card out, but otherwise it doesn&#8217;t seem much different than the current system.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s false only in the sense that all money is fungible. Social security was a social contract in which working age people would pay taxes to support retirees, in exchange for a promise that they&#039;d get money when they retired. Pensions are a similar contract between a corporation and its employees.

What is false is to complain that past generations didn&#039;t &quot;rack up hostpial/medical costs.&quot; It&#039;s not a generational thing - health care costs have been exploding for everyone. If you want to blame a union for it, blame the AMA, with its threats that any changes to the system will destroy freedom in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s false only in the sense that all money is fungible. Social security was a social contract in which working age people would pay taxes to support retirees, in exchange for a promise that they&#8217;d get money when they retired. Pensions are a similar contract between a corporation and its employees.</p>
<p>What is false is to complain that past generations didn&#8217;t &#8220;rack up hostpial/medical costs.&#8221; It&#8217;s not a generational thing &#8211; health care costs have been exploding for everyone. If you want to blame a union for it, blame the AMA, with its threats that any changes to the system will destroy freedom in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, clicked reply prematurely...

Contactless payment would be nice, but it&#039;s not one of the higher &quot;21st Century&quot; improvements in my opinion. The MetroCard is modern enough, especially seeing you only need to swipe it once per ride. In London, due to variable fares, you need to &quot;wave&quot; your Oystercard on exit as well. Also, they use the honor system in some places (such as on the Docklands Railway, where cards are scanned and verified by random fare controlpeople on board.)

Arrival displays would bring a much greater benefit. Also, although this falls into the capital program, &quot;21st Century&quot; to me means elevators in every station (this might not happen in my lifetime) and stations that look more like South Ferry and less like Chambers Street (J,M,Z).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, clicked reply prematurely&#8230;</p>
<p>Contactless payment would be nice, but it&#8217;s not one of the higher &#8220;21st Century&#8221; improvements in my opinion. The MetroCard is modern enough, especially seeing you only need to swipe it once per ride. In London, due to variable fares, you need to &#8220;wave&#8221; your Oystercard on exit as well. Also, they use the honor system in some places (such as on the Docklands Railway, where cards are scanned and verified by random fare controlpeople on board.)</p>
<p>Arrival displays would bring a much greater benefit. Also, although this falls into the capital program, &#8220;21st Century&#8221; to me means elevators in every station (this might not happen in my lifetime) and stations that look more like South Ferry and less like Chambers Street (J,M,Z).</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/17/the-top-challenges-that-await-jay-walder/#comment-62813</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contactless payment would be nice because</description>
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		<title>By: The Secret Conductor</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/17/the-top-challenges-that-await-jay-walder/#comment-62809</link>
		<dc:creator>The Secret Conductor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with rhywun. The idea that  youu are just getting the money back that you paid in it totally false. Same thing for pentions... how does someone get 30,000 a year for the rest of his life if he didn&#039;t even put in more then 100,000 over 25 years? Even if you calculate the future value of money that you put in now will not pay your 30K for the rest of your life.

Both social security and pentions are creations of past generations who did not life long after retirement, NOR did they rack up hostpial/medical costs like they currently do today.

I am NOT waiting nor depending on social security and my pentions. I will take what they give me, but I am almost sure both syetms will be quite bankrupt by the time its my turn. This is why I am TOTALLY focused on creating my own retirement plan by starting my own business.

A safety net is fine and very helpful, but it is just that. A safety net, not a floor on which you can walk on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with rhywun. The idea that  youu are just getting the money back that you paid in it totally false. Same thing for pentions&#8230; how does someone get 30,000 a year for the rest of his life if he didn&#8217;t even put in more then 100,000 over 25 years? Even if you calculate the future value of money that you put in now will not pay your 30K for the rest of your life.</p>
<p>Both social security and pentions are creations of past generations who did not life long after retirement, NOR did they rack up hostpial/medical costs like they currently do today.</p>
<p>I am NOT waiting nor depending on social security and my pentions. I will take what they give me, but I am almost sure both syetms will be quite bankrupt by the time its my turn. This is why I am TOTALLY focused on creating my own retirement plan by starting my own business.</p>
<p>A safety net is fine and very helpful, but it is just that. A safety net, not a floor on which you can walk on.</p>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. It doesn&#039;t work that way. There is no such thing as a &quot;lockbox&quot; where the money you put in 30 years ago is waiting for you when you retire. The money Mr. Greed gets is coming directly from today&#039;s taxpayers. With people living longer and longer lives, this sort of system was doomed from the start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. It doesn&#8217;t work that way. There is no such thing as a &#8220;lockbox&#8221; where the money you put in 30 years ago is waiting for you when you retire. The money Mr. Greed gets is coming directly from today&#8217;s taxpayers. With people living longer and longer lives, this sort of system was doomed from the start.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now about 180% of NYCT&#039;s farebox revenues go to operations. For capital construction, add another 90% of revenues.

MTA-wide, a little under 30% of operating expenses go to benefits. But that includes health insurance, not just pensions and other postemployment benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now about 180% of NYCT&#8217;s farebox revenues go to operations. For capital construction, add another 90% of revenues.</p>
<p>MTA-wide, a little under 30% of operating expenses go to benefits. But that includes health insurance, not just pensions and other postemployment benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, he&#039;s taking out what he paid in 30 years ago. It&#039;s not the same thing. The US chose to have terrible social security, leading to a system in which local governments and companies were stuck paying for retirees. If you don&#039;t like this arrangement, write to Schumer and Gillibrand asking them to double FICA so that Social Security covers more than bare necessities. I&#039;ll support you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, he&#8217;s taking out what he paid in 30 years ago. It&#8217;s not the same thing. The US chose to have terrible social security, leading to a system in which local governments and companies were stuck paying for retirees. If you don&#8217;t like this arrangement, write to Schumer and Gillibrand asking them to double FICA so that Social Security covers more than bare necessities. I&#8217;ll support you.</p>
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