Comments on: The B62 to ease B61 congestion http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:25:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alencia Kariim http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-70008 Alencia Kariim Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:07:06 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-70008 The split is more inconvenient and inefficient than planners anticipated (or chose to regard). There has to be a better way to be efficient than to impose a two bus transfer. Very disappointing MTA. The split is more inconvenient and inefficient than planners anticipated (or chose to regard). There has to be a better way to be efficient than to impose a two bus transfer. Very disappointing MTA.

]]> By: Carmen Hernandez http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-69494 Carmen Hernandez Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:59:50 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-69494 I live in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and there are alot of people that are not very happy because the B62 has taken the main parking space from the residents. It is a good thing that the B62 is helping with the congestion problems but it is bad that people have to park real far from their home. I live in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and there are alot of people that are not very happy because the B62 has taken the main parking space from the residents. It is a good thing that the B62 is helping with the congestion problems but it is bad that people have to park real far from their home.

]]> By: tonyr142 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-68845 tonyr142 Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:03:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-68845 I think the b61 should never been spited but have a b61 limated service to speed up the traip making transfur stops and maybe stoping @ williamsburg bridge plaza connecting to other main buses and to the j m and rush hr z train... the b62 should had been the bus going to midtown from green point from where the b43,b61,b48 and the G train runs. Once the b62 would had hit midtown it would make wave for a Q32 ltd from 59th and lex to 34th and 5th ave with it ltd stops while the b62 and m4 make all stops....to msg/peen station on 32 street. I think the b61 should never been spited but have a b61 limated service to speed up the traip making transfur stops and maybe stoping @ williamsburg bridge plaza connecting to other main buses and to the j m and rush hr z train… the b62 should had been the bus going to midtown from green point from where the b43,b61,b48 and the G train runs. Once the b62 would had hit midtown it would make wave for a
Q32 ltd from 59th and lex to 34th and 5th ave with it ltd stops while the b62 and m4 make all stops….to msg/peen station on 32 street.

]]> By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62861 Jerrold Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:59:41 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62861 I do not know if the three-leg transfer still exists or not. I do not know if the three-leg transfer still exists or not.

]]> By: Andrew http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62852 Andrew Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:42:10 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62852 How many is "MANY"? Probably a tiny fraction of the number who use the subway or who use the bus for other trips. Certainly fewer than the number who ride the segment of the M10 up in Harlem, where it doesn't run directly above the subway, whose bus service is no longer at the mercy of New Jersey traffic. And it's not like the trip isn't possible anymore - it's just a little less convenient than it used to be. (Granted, that inconvenience is a bigger deal for people who have difficulty climbing stairs than for the rest of us.) Back when the M10 was first split, I distinctly recall the announcement of a three-leg transfer, so that through riders wouldn't lose their transfer privileges to other lines. Is the three-leg transfer no longer available? I hope one is instituted on the B61/B62. How many is “MANY”? Probably a tiny fraction of the number who use the subway or who use the bus for other trips. Certainly fewer than the number who ride the segment of the M10 up in Harlem, where it doesn’t run directly above the subway, whose bus service is no longer at the mercy of New Jersey traffic. And it’s not like the trip isn’t possible anymore – it’s just a little less convenient than it used to be. (Granted, that inconvenience is a bigger deal for people who have difficulty climbing stairs than for the rest of us.)

Back when the M10 was first split, I distinctly recall the announcement of a three-leg transfer, so that through riders wouldn’t lose their transfer privileges to other lines. Is the three-leg transfer no longer available? I hope one is instituted on the B61/B62.

]]> By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62851 Jerrold Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:27:45 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62851 I personally prefer the subway, but there are MANY people who do travel by bus between places south of Penn Station and places north of Lincoln Center. For instance, what about elderly or handicapped riders who have difficulty with subway stairs or who fear the subways altogether? Also, if you have to use up the bus-to-bus transfer on your MetroCard to change betweeen the M10 and the M20, then another fare will be deducted if you change to yet another bus, such as any crosstown route. I personally prefer the subway, but there are MANY people who do travel by bus between places south of Penn Station and places north of Lincoln Center. For instance, what about elderly or handicapped riders who have difficulty with subway stairs or who fear the subways altogether?

Also, if you have to use up the bus-to-bus transfer on your MetroCard to change betweeen the M10 and the M20, then another fare will be deducted if you change to yet another bus, such as any crosstown route.

]]> By: Andrew http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62850 Andrew Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:40:56 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62850 I prefer it the current way - there's no reason a traffic jam at the Holland Tunnel should delay bus service in Harlem. The split also allowed for more frequent service over what I assume is the most heavily traveled section of the route, where the M10 and M20 overlap. It's an inconvenience for people traveling between north of Lincoln Center and south of Penn Station, but how many people go that far by bus? This new B61/B62 split will apparently have a shorter overlap (only in downtown Brooklyn itself), so it's possible that more people will be inconvenienced. But my impression from riding the line (only a few times, I'm afraid) is that relatively few ride from one side of downtown to the other. I prefer it the current way – there’s no reason a traffic jam at the Holland Tunnel should delay bus service in Harlem.

The split also allowed for more frequent service over what I assume is the most heavily traveled section of the route, where the M10 and M20 overlap.

It’s an inconvenience for people traveling between north of Lincoln Center and south of Penn Station, but how many people go that far by bus?

This new B61/B62 split will apparently have a shorter overlap (only in downtown Brooklyn itself), so it’s possible that more people will be inconvenienced. But my impression from riding the line (only a few times, I’m afraid) is that relatively few ride from one side of downtown to the other.

]]> By: Monday PM Linkage http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62846 Monday PM Linkage Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:12:03 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62846 [...] · Extell sells off three Upper East Side buildings it planned on rehabbing [Globe St] · More on the potential B61 bus line split [Second Ave Sagas] · EDC wants to redevelop Staten Island’s waterfront Navy Homeport [...] [...] · Extell sells off three Upper East Side buildings it planned on rehabbing [Globe St] · More on the potential B61 bus line split [Second Ave Sagas] · EDC wants to redevelop Staten Island’s waterfront Navy Homeport [...]

]]> By: Jerrold http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62842 Jerrold Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:57:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62842 "Splitting" a bus route in that way usually does not make any sense. It reminds me of some years ago when they made that change with the Eighth Ave./Seventh Ave. bus line here on the West Side of Manhattan. The M10 got split into the M20 and a shorter M10. I think that it had been better the old way. “Splitting” a bus route in that way usually does not make any sense.
It reminds me of some years ago when they made that change with the Eighth Ave./Seventh Ave. bus line here on the West Side of Manhattan.
The M10 got split into the M20 and a shorter M10.
I think that it had been better the old way.

]]> By: Cap'n Transit http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/07/20/the-b62-to-ease-b61-congestion/#comment-62841 Cap'n Transit Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:14:36 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3364#comment-62841 They should have the two routes overlap: one from Red Hook to Williamsburg, and another from Downtown Brooklyn (or Cobble Hill) to LIC. They should have the two routes overlap: one from Red Hook to Williamsburg, and another from Downtown Brooklyn (or Cobble Hill) to LIC.

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