Comments on: Is Bizarro New York Filled with Flying Cars? http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 26 May 2012 00:19:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Building 11 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63315 Building 11 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:51:11 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63315 What if the 2nd Avenue El hadn't been torn down, with the tracks going over the Queensboro Bridge, connecting with the Flushing and Astoria lines? That's always been one of my major "what if" questions. My other big one is "What would have happened if Yogi Berra had started George Stone in Game 6 against Oakland? What if the 2nd Avenue El hadn’t been torn down, with the tracks going over the Queensboro Bridge, connecting with the Flushing and Astoria lines?

That’s always been one of my major “what if” questions. My other big one is “What would have happened if Yogi Berra had started George Stone in Game 6 against Oakland?

]]> By: anonymous http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63310 anonymous Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:25:42 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63310 Keep in mind tho that parking in NY is generally contained within buildings, so you won't necessarily see the difference, but there will be a lot more space used for cars. In any case, this is a moot issue, since without efficient public transit NYC wouldn't really exist in the first place. Keep in mind tho that parking in NY is generally contained within buildings, so you won’t necessarily see the difference, but there will be a lot more space used for cars.

In any case, this is a moot issue, since without efficient public transit NYC wouldn’t really exist in the first place.

]]> By: anonymous http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63309 anonymous Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:24:32 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63309 Agreed. Agreed.

]]> By: herenthere http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63308 herenthere Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:24:58 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63308 Better planning but not as popular? More sprawl? Better planning but not as popular? More sprawl?

]]> By: MichaelB http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63304 MichaelB Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:54:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63304 With no subway, the pressure to build freeways bridges and tunnels would probably have been all the stronger. So projects like the Cross-Manhattan expressway would probably have been built. This, along with the parking needed in Manhattan would probably eat up so much space that the metro area would either have fewer people or the jobs would've been pushed into the outer boroughs and Jersey. Best case, a smaller less populous Manhattan that retains the essential characteristics combined with more and larger central business districts in surrounding areas. This may look like LA does, though with a larger downtown at the center. And of course rivers. With no subway, the pressure to build freeways bridges and tunnels would probably have been all the stronger. So projects like the Cross-Manhattan expressway would probably have been built. This, along with the parking needed in Manhattan would probably eat up so much space that the metro area would either have fewer people or the jobs would’ve been pushed into the outer boroughs and Jersey. Best case, a smaller less populous Manhattan that retains the essential characteristics combined with more and larger central business districts in surrounding areas. This may look like LA does, though with a larger downtown at the center. And of course rivers.

]]> By: James D http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63293 James D Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:13:06 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63293 Probably Midtown would be more oriented towards the rivers, with development falling off in the center. Probably Midtown would be more oriented towards the rivers, with development falling off in the center.

]]> By: Kid Twist http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63290 Kid Twist Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:23:43 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63290 Half of Manhattan would be developed and the other half would be parking for the developed half. Also, lots of expressways and ramps. Half of Manhattan would be developed and the other half would be parking for the developed half. Also, lots of expressways and ramps.

]]> By: Mike http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63287 Mike Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:06:06 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63287 Yeah, clearly Els, like Chicago. Or is the question what NY would be like without any grade-separated rail transit at all? Yeah, clearly Els, like Chicago.

Or is the question what NY would be like without any grade-separated rail transit at all?

]]> By: Nathanael http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63281 Nathanael Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:30:54 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63281 It would have had a lot more Elevateds. That's the only thing which can be said for sure. It would have had a lot more Elevateds. That’s the only thing which can be said for sure.

]]> By: Boris http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/05/is-bizarro-new-york-filled-with-flying-cars/#comment-63277 Boris Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:58:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3549#comment-63277 Parts of New York would look like First Avenue in Manhattan and parts like Staten Island, depending on when they were inhabited (before or after 1960's zoning laws). Both locations have poor subway access today. Parts of New York would look like First Avenue in Manhattan and parts like Staten Island, depending on when they were inhabited (before or after 1960′s zoning laws). Both locations have poor subway access today.

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