Comments on: Atlantic Terminal LIRR project due for fall completion http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:32:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-68345 Benjamin Kabak Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:04:56 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-68345 Based upon reports on <a href="http://fort-greene.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/be-the-journalist-atlantic-terminal-entrance/" rel="nofollow">The Local</a> and <a href="http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/12/holy_crap_atlan.php" rel="nofollow">Brownstoner</a>, it's nearly ready to open. The plywood is coming down, and the doors should open any day now. Based upon reports on The Local and Brownstoner, it’s nearly ready to open. The plywood is coming down, and the doors should open any day now.

]]> By: bob smalls http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-68343 bob smalls Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:59:33 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-68343 I believe that the entrance is separate from the Ratner development and falls under the authority of the MTA, thus the 4 year lifespan. If this is actually done tomorrow I will flip. I believe that the entrance is separate from the Ratner development and falls under the authority of the MTA, thus the 4 year lifespan. If this is actually done tomorrow I will flip.

]]> By: How to Make Us Care About the LIRR: With This Thing! | One Better One http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-64512 How to Make Us Care About the LIRR: With This Thing! | One Better One Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:06:29 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-64512 [...] a rendering of the outside of the Atlantic Terminal entrance, via Second Avenue Sagas. At least Long Islanders will be able to ride to Nets games in style, if that whole thing across [...] [...] a rendering of the outside of the Atlantic Terminal entrance, via Second Avenue Sagas. At least Long Islanders will be able to ride to Nets games in style, if that whole thing across [...]

]]> By: kvnbklyn http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-63420 kvnbklyn Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:27:24 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-63420 I believe what they're talking about is the LIRR platform renovations. They're being a bit disingenuous since the platform renovations weren't even a part of the original project and were only done when they realized that the new station entrance building was so incredibly delayed that they needed to do something to show some progress. Of course, considering this station has been a disaster since they demolished the original entrance building in the 1980s (and possibly before - that's way before my time), it's incredible (yet par for the course for the MTA) that it's now 2009 and the project is only now coming to an end. I believe what they’re talking about is the LIRR platform renovations. They’re being a bit disingenuous since the platform renovations weren’t even a part of the original project and were only done when they realized that the new station entrance building was so incredibly delayed that they needed to do something to show some progress.

Of course, considering this station has been a disaster since they demolished the original entrance building in the 1980s (and possibly before – that’s way before my time), it’s incredible (yet par for the course for the MTA) that it’s now 2009 and the project is only now coming to an end.

]]> By: Mike http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-63414 Mike Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:06:09 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-63414 I hope this construction was paid for by Forest City Ratner as part of the deal that got them the incredibly valuable land to build their mall on. But I'm not sure. I hope this construction was paid for by Forest City Ratner as part of the deal that got them the incredibly valuable land to build their mall on. But I’m not sure.

]]> By: Scott E http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-63407 Scott E Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:22:23 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-63407 <i>"The first phase of the project involved Flatbush Station improvements. It was completed on time in 2005."</i> What is this referring to? The subway part seems renovated, and the LIRR platforms themselves seem nearly complete, but the area to the west of the platform (not the entrance pavilion) behind the bumper-blocks is a narrow maze through construction-related barriers. It also seems like permanent doorways are being installed to the platforms, making the walkway <i>narrower!</i> (it's already caused a bottleneck). Meanwhile, the east-ends of the platforms are riddled with dripping water near the new, but now rusty "emergency exit" staircases, and the gap between the curved platform and the train is well in excess of a foot. To say it is "substantially done" is debatable. To say it was "completed" is deceptive. “The first phase of the project involved Flatbush Station improvements. It was completed on time in 2005.” What is this referring to? The subway part seems renovated, and the LIRR platforms themselves seem nearly complete, but the area to the west of the platform (not the entrance pavilion) behind the bumper-blocks is a narrow maze through construction-related barriers. It also seems like permanent doorways are being installed to the platforms, making the walkway narrower! (it’s already caused a bottleneck).

Meanwhile, the east-ends of the platforms are riddled with dripping water near the new, but now rusty “emergency exit” staircases, and the gap between the curved platform and the train is well in excess of a foot.
To say it is “substantially done” is debatable. To say it was “completed” is deceptive.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-63404 Alon Levy Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:54:39 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-63404 How much did this passenger flow improvement cost? How much did this passenger flow improvement cost?

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-63401 Benjamin Kabak Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:50:47 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-63401 Ideally, it will improve passenger flow into and out of both the subway and LIRR stations at Atlantic/Pacific/Flatbush. It's replacing an old terminal that was knocked down to build FCR's ugly Atlantic Terminal mall. Ideally, it will improve passenger flow into and out of both the subway and LIRR stations at Atlantic/Pacific/Flatbush. It’s replacing an old terminal that was knocked down to build FCR’s ugly Atlantic Terminal mall.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/10/atlantic-terminal-lirr-project-due-for-fall-completion/#comment-63400 Alon Levy Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:49:15 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3625#comment-63400 Is the project going to improve transit mobility, or is it just another station beautification? And the greatest problem with taking the lowest bid is Atlantic Yards. ;) Is the project going to improve transit mobility, or is it just another station beautification?

And the greatest problem with taking the lowest bid is Atlantic Yards. ;)

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