Comments on: More fallout from the MTA/TWU arbitration decision http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:28:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Veteran Railer http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-68187 Veteran Railer Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:14:38 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-68187 If you had any understanding of the job transit workers do to provide service, you'd think twice before calling them leeches. Do you wake up at 2am, go out in any weather to prepare the train for service to pick up leeches like yourself. May you be the first passenger dragged to your death because there is no conductor on the train to see you are stuck in a door. If you had any understanding of the job transit workers do to provide service, you’d think twice before calling them leeches. Do you wake up at 2am, go out in any weather to prepare the train for service to pick up leeches like yourself.
May you be the first passenger dragged to your death because there is no conductor on the train to see you are stuck in a door.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64819 Benjamin Kabak Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:26:43 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64819 <em>I think OPTO costs , not saves.</em> Hah! Spoken like a true union rep. How many other systems worldwide use OPTO? How much money has it saved? How many lives have been lost? I think OPTO costs , not saves.

Hah! Spoken like a true union rep. How many other systems worldwide use OPTO? How much money has it saved? How many lives have been lost?

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64818 Benjamin Kabak Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:25:43 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64818 I'm so sick of hearing about the two sets of books charges. This was proven in a court of law to be false. The MTA does not and has not kept two sets of books. It doesn't help anyone's pro-union argument when they continue to propagate this ridiculous fairy tale. I’m so sick of hearing about the two sets of books charges. This was proven in a court of law to be false. The MTA does not and has not kept two sets of books. It doesn’t help anyone’s pro-union argument when they continue to propagate this ridiculous fairy tale.

]]> By: slowmeo http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64816 slowmeo Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:23:23 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64816 Opto is not destroyed at all. We have opto on several lines and that will not change with the new contract. Get your facts straight. The Franklyn Ave Shuttle is OPTO 24/7, The G is opto all weekend. I don't know why everyone thinks OPTO is a good Idea. If he Train Operator dies from a heart attack what do you think will happen to you. If their is a terroist attack or even a another blackout 2 people will be there to help you. I think OPTO costs , not saves. Opto is not destroyed at all. We have opto on several lines and that will not change with the new contract. Get your facts straight. The Franklyn Ave Shuttle is OPTO 24/7, The G is opto all weekend. I don’t know why everyone thinks OPTO is a good Idea. If he Train Operator dies from a heart attack what do you think will happen to you. If their is a terroist attack or even a another blackout 2 people will be there to help you. I think OPTO costs , not saves.

]]> By: slowmeo http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64815 slowmeo Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:19:10 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64815 Nice questions. My only comment is, the fare already went up without the union's contract. So an example of being without a union has been given already I think. Nice questions. My only comment is, the fare already went up without the union’s contract. So an example of being without a union has been given already I think.

]]> By: slowmeo http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64813 slowmeo Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:16:03 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64813 How do YOU know that the agency is struggling to stay afloat? Because they told you?? The same people that lie about their finances over and over again and keep separate books to hide the true facts?? Again, don't believe everything you read in the paper. The MTA has Billions of dollars hidden. Some go to No Bid contract friends (Believe It), that scratch the MTA's back in some way or another. And how can you have money to build new things when the old things are breaking down? I would LOVE to buld another room in my home BUT I have to use the money for other things. So does the MTA. (Like paying its workers properly). How do YOU know that the agency is struggling to stay afloat? Because they told you?? The same people that lie about their finances over and over again and keep separate books to hide the true facts?? Again, don’t believe everything you read in the paper. The MTA has Billions of dollars hidden. Some go to No Bid contract friends (Believe It), that scratch the MTA’s back in some way or another. And how can you have money to build new things when the old things are breaking down? I would LOVE to buld another room in my home BUT I have to use the money for other things. So does the MTA. (Like paying its workers properly).

]]> By: slowmeo http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64812 slowmeo Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:11:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64812 Both side would carry blame if there wern't so many MTA managers making $180,000 a year sitting on their ass while the REAL workers have to fight to make $60,000. The problem is that the public only knows what they read in the paper. The MTA need to be held accountable for its keeping on MULTIPLE books (whats that all about) to hide their true finances. The fare was raised already WITHOUT any expectation of the winning of the Union contract. So Wake up and smell the subway. Your fare will go up if the workers NEVER get a raise. The MTA just uses that excuse to get people that know NOTHING about the MTA to vent against workers. Both side would carry blame if there wern’t so many MTA managers making $180,000 a year sitting on their ass while the REAL workers have to fight to make $60,000. The problem is that the public only knows what they read in the paper. The MTA need to be held accountable for its keeping on MULTIPLE books (whats that all about) to hide their true finances. The fare was raised already WITHOUT any expectation of the winning of the Union contract. So Wake up and smell the subway. Your fare will go up if the workers NEVER get a raise. The MTA just uses that excuse to get people that know NOTHING about the MTA to vent against workers.

]]> By: slowmeo http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64811 slowmeo Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:06:13 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64811 The so called welfare check collectors, have to work in frezzing cold with broken heaters, brutal heat with broken air conditioners, step over homeless and their feces and have to ride for hours with their smell, stand in urine for 2 hours until the train gets to the terminal to be cleaned, risk being attacked working on deserted platforms at all hours of the night, and be ready to save your ass during a fire, blackout or terrorist attack. I am ready every day to do these things and have on MANY occasions. What have YOU done today ? The so called welfare check collectors, have to work in frezzing cold with broken heaters, brutal heat with broken air conditioners, step over homeless and their feces and have to ride for hours with their smell, stand in urine for 2 hours until the train gets to the terminal to be cleaned, risk being attacked working on deserted platforms at all hours of the night, and be ready to save your ass during a fire, blackout or terrorist attack. I am ready every day to do these things and have on MANY occasions. What have YOU done today ?

]]> By: normrx7 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64773 normrx7 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:57:03 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64773 "The MTA, however, is in a far different economic situation than the rest of the city. The agency is struggling to stay afloat and shouldn’t have been required to give its workers raises if it can’t afford to." Excuse me? Tax revenues in the city are down 35% this year, yet that had no impact on the raises other city agencies were given. Why single out the TWU for it's legally achieved collective bargaining gains. Got a problem with Federal bailout monies being used to finance the TWU workers raises? I have a problem with Federal TARP funds being used to grant multi million dollar bonuses for bank executives. Yeah the economy is in the toilet, and your 401k's are down, and your house has lost 25% of its value, but instead of taking the intellectually lazy path by picking on the TWU, look at the big picture to see where the problems really exist. “The MTA, however, is in a far different economic situation than the rest of the city. The agency is struggling to stay afloat and shouldn’t have been required to give its workers raises if it can’t afford to.” Excuse me? Tax revenues in the city are down 35% this year, yet that had no impact on the raises other city agencies were given. Why single out the TWU for it’s legally achieved collective bargaining gains. Got a problem with Federal bailout monies being used to finance the TWU workers raises? I have a problem with Federal TARP funds being used to grant multi million dollar bonuses for bank executives. Yeah the economy is in the toilet, and your 401k’s are down, and your house has lost 25% of its value, but instead of taking the intellectually lazy path by picking on the TWU, look at the big picture to see where the problems really exist.

]]> By: George the animal http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/08/12/more-fallout-from-the-mtatwu-arbitration-decision/#comment-64726 George the animal Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:53:47 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3648#comment-64726 What everyone doesn't understand is that the twu is a union of skilled tradesman in many fields, who put in there hard earned time during the day, and doing it in a safe manner. If you feel private contracted workers would save money, you wait till all the safety procedures that the union has worked so hard for to keep the public and the twu workers safe and able to go home to there families in one piece will go out the window,then you will see how much it costs the city in lawsuits , accidencts and cleanups. Ok and if look up salaries of private sector tradesman in the same fields we make less to equal than there salaries so do ur research before you think twu is overpaid when it is the complete opposite. Bloomberg is a dangerous mindset of corrupption learching under the citys ignorance just to get re-elected, anybody that goes againt the city about the third term and somehow does it anyway without conscience for what the the city what , which is who he is supposed to represent can not be trusted on any level. But somehow people will listen to him and go against the same working class twu memebers who live amonst the rest of city, when we provide safe reliable public transportation to the city 24 7 all year every year. This tyrant is robbing the lower and middle incomeed families of this city blind to make himself and the rest of th bloated money hunger politicians and big businesses bigger and richer and us poorer. Remember we are the city ,the mojarity and that will never change, because we are the haert and soul of what makes this city new york What everyone doesn’t understand is that the twu is a union of skilled tradesman in many fields, who put in there hard earned time during the day, and doing it in a safe manner. If you feel private contracted workers would save money, you wait till all the safety procedures that the union has worked so hard for to keep the public and the twu workers safe and able to go home to there families in one piece will go out the window,then you will see how much it costs the city in lawsuits , accidencts and cleanups. Ok and if look up salaries of private sector tradesman in the same fields we make less to equal than there salaries so do ur research before you think twu is overpaid when it is the complete opposite. Bloomberg is a dangerous mindset of corrupption learching under the citys ignorance just to get re-elected, anybody that goes againt the city about the third term and somehow does it anyway without conscience for what the the city what , which is who he is supposed to represent can not be trusted on any level. But somehow people will listen to him and go against the same working class twu memebers who live amonst the rest of city, when we provide safe reliable public transportation to the city 24 7 all year every year. This tyrant is robbing the lower and middle incomeed families of this city blind to make himself and the rest of th bloated money hunger politicians and big businesses bigger and richer and us poorer. Remember we are the city ,the mojarity and that will never change, because we are the haert and soul of what makes this city new york

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