Comments on: Second Ave. relocation sagas http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/ A New York City Subway Blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:51:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A $10 million reserve for Second Ave. residents :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64899 A $10 million reserve for Second Ave. residents :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:15:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64899 [...] the MTA and Upper East Side residents are at odds over Second. Ave relocation measures, the authority has a cash reserve in place to mitigate moving expenses. According to a report in [...] [...] the MTA and Upper East Side residents are at odds over Second. Ave relocation measures, the authority has a cash reserve in place to mitigate moving expenses. According to a report in [...]

]]> By: Nathanael http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64723 Nathanael Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:47:46 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64723 Correction: three buildings whose foundations were already defective, whose owners derelictly and negligently failed to fix building code violations for years, got slightly worse when the MTA started digging. That one is really not the MTA's fault. That's the damn landlords' fault. Correction: three buildings whose foundations were already defective, whose owners derelictly and negligently failed to fix building code violations for years, got slightly worse when the MTA started digging.

That one is really not the MTA’s fault. That’s the damn landlords’ fault.

]]> By: Nathanael http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64722 Nathanael Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:45:55 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64722 Hey, maybe they want to live next to a subway line, and if the MTA promised to build phase II and the 116th St. Station, they'd feel differently? :-) Maybe they moved in because the MTA promised that the Second Avenue Subway was coming soon, and they feel cheated by being asked to move away just when it's arriving? ;-) Hey, maybe they want to live next to a subway line, and if the MTA promised to build phase II and the 116th St. Station, they’d feel differently? :-) Maybe they moved in because the MTA promised that the Second Avenue Subway was coming soon, and they feel cheated by being asked to move away just when it’s arriving? ;-)

]]> By: Nathanael http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64721 Nathanael Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:44:02 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64721 The MTA should have hired a better real estate agency! My local real estate agent went out of her way to find me what I wanted. Apparently this "national company" is *not* doing that for the tenants. That rather seems to have caused the problems! The MTA should have hired a better real estate agency!

My local real estate agent went out of her way to find me what I wanted. Apparently this “national company” is *not* doing that for the tenants. That rather seems to have caused the problems!

]]> By: Legal woes plaguing Second Ave. subway :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64562 Legal woes plaguing Second Ave. subway :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:17:05 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64562 [...] and the MTA’s need for a blast permit while the other is a follow-up from last week’s relocation saga. Both present the possibility of even more delays for this troubled [...] [...] and the MTA’s need for a blast permit while the other is a follow-up from last week’s relocation saga. Both present the possibility of even more delays for this troubled [...]

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64472 Alon Levy Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:16:49 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64472 The part of Harlem where I lived was overwhelmingly black. My girlfriend and I counted people on the street once, and about 80% were black, with most of the rest Hispanic. Our building had a few whites in it but that was just one building - even the block was probably less than 10% white plus Asian. The white people who did live there were younger than average, but not by a lot. Besides which, since when is being 64 an excuse for racism? The part of Harlem where I lived was overwhelmingly black. My girlfriend and I counted people on the street once, and about 80% were black, with most of the rest Hispanic. Our building had a few whites in it but that was just one building – even the block was probably less than 10% white plus Asian. The white people who did live there were younger than average, but not by a lot.

Besides which, since when is being 64 an excuse for racism?

]]> By: Woody http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64469 Woody Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:08:54 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64469 Alon, As I ride my bike through the streets of Harlem, I see plenty young white folks on the sidewalks. Rarely if ever do I see anyone the age of me and Mrs Reidi, 64. I might wanna deport any younger folks who refuse to consider living there. But most older people get very set in their ways, and that effect is probably amplified for those who have lived in the same building for more than 40 years. But I can see why the MTA's brokers thought there could be deals in Harlem. I see a large number of handsome buildings going up. A huge supply of high-priced apartments are coming on the market and they are likely to go for MUCH lower rents than the developers and their bankers ever imagined. Alon, As I ride my bike through the streets of Harlem, I see plenty young white folks on the sidewalks. Rarely if ever do I see anyone the age of me and Mrs Reidi, 64.

I might wanna deport any younger folks who refuse to consider living there. But most older people get very set in their ways, and that effect is probably amplified for those who have lived in the same building for more than 40 years.

But I can see why the MTA’s brokers thought there could be deals in Harlem. I see a large number of handsome buildings going up. A huge supply of high-priced apartments are coming on the market and they are likely to go for MUCH lower rents than the developers and their bankers ever imagined.

]]> By: Doug http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64458 Doug Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:08:16 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64458 The main problem is that in the umpteen years these people have been living in their rent stabilized apartments, housing costs have soared citywide, and particularly in their neighborhood. So, there is nothing "comparable" in location, amenities and cost: you have to lose one. It sounds like the federal law doesn't offer any suggestions on this count: I imagine the courts will likely recognize this omission and tell the residents, "tough". In the mean time, no subway. The main problem is that in the umpteen years these people have been living in their rent stabilized apartments, housing costs have soared citywide, and particularly in their neighborhood. So, there is nothing “comparable” in location, amenities and cost: you have to lose one. It sounds like the federal law doesn’t offer any suggestions on this count: I imagine the courts will likely recognize this omission and tell the residents, “tough”. In the mean time, no subway.

]]> By: peter knox http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64457 peter knox Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:58:40 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64457 This site must be renamed. All of its information about the construction of the SAS comes news artilces and the MTA itself. How can Kabak repeat the nonsense that this project will be completed in 2017 for 4.5 billion? He repeats because he evidently does not observe on a regular basis the farce that this project has become. It will not be completed in 2017 as planned; nor will it cost 4.5 billion. In two and a half years, The MTA has not yet begun to build any of the four stations, and they have not built one inch of the tunnel from 96th down. Who believes that in eight years the MTA can complete four stations and a mile and a half tunnel? Go the site, Kabak; look at what is happening. Many days only a few workers can be seen. Yesterday no one was working. Most of the workers who are at the site carry clipboards and stand and eat and talk or don't carry clipboards and stand and eat and talk. And they can't begin constructing the tunnel until they finish blasting beneath 92nd to 93rd Street, and they can't begin blasting because they have already compromised the foundations of three buildings. By the way, what happened to those pitiful residents who were told to vacate those buildings immediately? Why doesn't the MTA tell us about their fate. The whole thing is a colossal and criminal fiasco. This site must be renamed. All of its information about the construction of the SAS comes news artilces and the MTA itself. How can Kabak repeat the nonsense that this project will be completed in 2017 for 4.5 billion? He repeats because he evidently does not observe on a regular basis the farce that this project has become. It will not be completed in 2017 as planned; nor will it cost 4.5 billion. In two and a half years, The MTA has not yet begun to build any of the four stations, and they have not built one inch of the tunnel from 96th down. Who believes that in eight years the MTA can complete four stations and a mile and a half tunnel? Go the site, Kabak; look at what is happening. Many days only a few workers can be seen. Yesterday no one was working. Most of the workers who are at the site carry clipboards and stand and eat and talk or don’t carry clipboards and stand and eat and talk. And they can’t begin constructing the tunnel until they finish blasting beneath 92nd to 93rd Street, and they can’t begin blasting because they have already compromised the foundations of three buildings. By the way, what happened to those pitiful residents who were told to vacate those buildings immediately? Why doesn’t the MTA tell us about their fate. The whole thing is a colossal and criminal fiasco.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/08/second-ave-relocation-sagas/#comment-64456 Alon Levy Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:28:09 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3805#comment-64456 I think every person who's so prejudiced as to refuse to be interested in Harlem should, on general principle, be deported from the city. I think every person who’s so prejudiced as to refuse to be interested in Harlem should, on general principle, be deported from the city.

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