Comments on: MTA struggling in an age of open information http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 26 May 2012 04:42:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: How Open Is Open? | Urban Mapping Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-253487 How Open Is Open? | Urban Mapping Blog Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:34:37 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-253487 [...] Transit initiative had no more than a few systems participating, New York City’s MTA was threatening private parties, trying them to force them into licensing agreements for use of MTA’s trademarks and [...] [...] Transit initiative had no more than a few systems participating, New York City’s MTA was threatening private parties, trying them to force them into licensing agreements for use of MTA’s trademarks and [...]

]]> By: I Ride The Harlem Line…» Blog Archive » Thoughts on winter, and a commuter bill of rights http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-230826 I Ride The Harlem Line…» Blog Archive » Thoughts on winter, and a commuter bill of rights Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:33:35 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-230826 [...] trends (twitter, facebook). Only two years ago the MTA would send their lawyers after you for using the round subway bullets online. The MTA’s lawyers also deemed Metro-North’s train schedules as their own [...] [...] trends (twitter, facebook). Only two years ago the MTA would send their lawyers after you for using the round subway bullets online. The MTA’s lawyers also deemed Metro-North’s train schedules as their own [...]

]]> By: Making the case for open transit data :: Second Ave. Sagas http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-88720 Making the case for open transit data :: Second Ave. Sagas Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:11:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-88720 [...] toward data. Since my charge that the authority’s close-minded approach to sharing put it on the wrong path in an age of open information, MTA CEO and Chairman Jay Walder has led an effort to work with [...] [...] toward data. Since my charge that the authority’s close-minded approach to sharing put it on the wrong path in an age of open information, MTA CEO and Chairman Jay Walder has led an effort to work with [...]

]]> By: MTA, Google to host developers’ unconference :: Second Ave. Sagas http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-77580 MTA, Google to host developers’ unconference :: Second Ave. Sagas Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:44:48 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-77580 [...] Jay Walder took the reins at the MTA, I wrote a long piece about how the transit authority was struggling to cope in an age of open information. The MTA, I claimed, had overstepped its legal rights in a pair of showdowns with iPhone app [...] [...] Jay Walder took the reins at the MTA, I wrote a long piece about how the transit authority was struggling to cope in an age of open information. The MTA, I claimed, had overstepped its legal rights in a pair of showdowns with iPhone app [...]

]]> By: Will the MTA catch the open information bug? :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-67703 Will the MTA catch the open information bug? :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:05:10 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-67703 [...] we have already seen it in practice here in New York. In September, I wrote a lengthy piece about the MTA’s struggles in an age of open information. At the time, they were battling Chris Schoenfeld, creator of the Station Stops iPhone App (and an [...] [...] we have already seen it in practice here in New York. In September, I wrote a lengthy piece about the MTA’s struggles in an age of open information. At the time, they were battling Chris Schoenfeld, creator of the Station Stops iPhone App (and an [...]

]]> By: Informed http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-66694 Informed Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:01:40 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-66694 Free as in do not make money from it? I don't think anyone has issue with that. The rest of the US transit systems have license agreements which state (links from http://code.google.com/p/googletransitdatafeed/wiki/PublicFeeds) TriMet "All materials published on the Site, including, but not limited to, trademarks, service marks, maps, schedules, arrival information, fare information, photographs and illustrations (collectively, the "Content"), is the property of TriMet unless otherwise indicated." BART "BART maintains title, ownership, rights and interest in and to Data" San Mateo Count Distric Transit "The Transit District maintains title, ownership, rights and interest in and to Data." Dallas Area Rapid Transit " To the extent allowed by the Texas law, commercial use of the materials, including graphics and artwork, contained in www.DART.org is prohibited without the written permission of DART" Washington DC Metro "WMATA maintains title, ownership, rights and interest in and to the Data" No one disputes the that the information is free, just that you do not own the information and cannot resell it. Free as in do not make money from it? I don’t think anyone has issue with that.

The rest of the US transit systems have license agreements which state (links from http://code.google.com/p/googl.....ublicFeeds)

TriMet “All materials published on the Site, including, but not limited to, trademarks, service marks, maps, schedules, arrival information, fare information, photographs and illustrations (collectively, the “Content”), is the property of TriMet unless otherwise indicated.”
BART “BART maintains title, ownership, rights and interest in and to Data”
San Mateo Count Distric Transit “The Transit District maintains title, ownership, rights and interest in and to Data.”
Dallas Area Rapid Transit ” To the extent allowed by the Texas law, commercial use of the materials, including graphics and artwork, contained in http://www.DART.org is prohibited without the written permission of DART”
Washington DC Metro “WMATA maintains title, ownership, rights and interest in and to the Data”

No one disputes the that the information is free, just that you do not own the information and cannot resell it.

]]> By: In reversal, MTA may work with web developers :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-65042 In reversal, MTA may work with web developers :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:01:16 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-65042 [...] and has generally made life tough for Schoenfeld. While you can read all about this conflict in my extensive post on the MTA’s struggles in an age of open information, the transit agency is not certain how it wants to proceed in a digital [...] [...] and has generally made life tough for Schoenfeld. While you can read all about this conflict in my extensive post on the MTA’s struggles in an age of open information, the transit agency is not certain how it wants to proceed in a digital [...]

]]> By: Making the case for open transit data :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-64963 Making the case for open transit data :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:40:12 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-64963 [...] days ago, I delved in depth on the legal battle between the MTA and various software developers. The agency had taken issue with iPhone and other online apps that present MTA scheduling data, and [...] [...] days ago, I delved in depth on the legal battle between the MTA and various software developers. The agency had taken issue with iPhone and other online apps that present MTA scheduling data, and [...]

]]> By: Streetsblog New York City » The Case for Open MTA Data: Transparency, Savings, and Easier Riding http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-64895 Streetsblog New York City » The Case for Open MTA Data: Transparency, Savings, and Easier Riding Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:31:23 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-64895 [...] resulting legal battle can turn ugly. Just ask Chris Schoenfeld, a developer and Metro-North rider who clashed repeatedly with MTA intellectual property lawyers over the terms for distributing his mo..., StationStops. A major point of contention: licensing fees and royalties. (After the MTA received a [...] [...] resulting legal battle can turn ugly. Just ask Chris Schoenfeld, a developer and Metro-North rider who clashed repeatedly with MTA intellectual property lawyers over the terms for distributing his mo…, StationStops. A major point of contention: licensing fees and royalties. (After the MTA received a [...]

]]> By: Anon http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/14/mta-struggling-in-an-age-of-open-information/#comment-64765 Anon Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:27:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3833#comment-64765 http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5ioSMFtZKFhEdURCe6ZuOEOJcFFGw http://www.google.com/hostedne.....uOEOJcFFGw

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