Comments on: Seatless train experiment stalling out

By: Kai

Kai — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:52:27 +0000

Five out of the six Fs I saw this Saturday on a trip to Jamaica were R160s. But perhaps that’s just a weekend surplus.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:50:42 +0000

It is but we’re talking about IND/BMT lines here, since IRT lines won’t qualify for the trials

By: Ed

Ed — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:32:12 +0000

When I’m standing in the subway (my usual line is the Lexington Avenue line), I’ve noticed that I tend to get jostled or pushed aside by people wearing big backpacks, swaying to their IPODs, people who bring strollers or big suitcases into the car, or people who just seem to decide that they really, really want to stand where I’m standing. I tend to grab a seat at the first opportunity, even if I’m not tired, just to get out of the way.

I wonder how the seatless subway cars will work with the MTA’s current campaign against groping?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:21:49 +0000

The R38′s have been all gone for months. (Since March, I think?)

The A runs mostly R44′s with some R46′s and a few R32′s. The G runs all R46′s. The R runs mostly R46′s with some R32′s and R42′s thrown in for good measure. The V runs the lion’s share of the remaining R42′s, along with some R32′s and R46′s.

The F will be getting more R160′s. When all is said and done, most if not all of the R46′s will be off the F, running on the C, R, and V instead.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:17:20 +0000

East Side IRT? The plan was always to do this with R160′s, not R142′s.

The E is the most overcrowded of the B Division lines. My guess is that this train will end up on the E.

By: SEAN

SEAN — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:18:51 +0000

What about the 7 line. Is there a time of day when the 7 isn’t jammed?

By: SEAN

SEAN — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:15:36 +0000

Thanks. Are the R-32′s through 46′s being retired or just shifted?

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:35:19 +0000

Last I heard, about a third of the F is now R160. I think they should be majority R160 by the end of the year.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:34:47 +0000

The E is also fairly overcrowded as well. That would make a good test line.

By: Marc Ebuna

Marc Ebuna — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:24:16 +0000

I agree with your sentiment about Kawaski, considering they already make trains with seats that fold up and lock. I'm pretty sure Kawasaki Heavy Industries makes all the EMUs for JR. With the possibility of a larger order, it can't possibly reasonable to say that asking for a small sample like that is 'too small for them to spend time engineering' such a change. Granted, an in-house solution might work just as well as it did for the MBTA who started running the Big Red cars last December. Though, it'd be nice to be able to retain the benches and just have them fold down for off peak use.