Comments on: Platform intercoms to improve station safety http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 26 May 2012 04:42:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64953 Alon Levy Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:41:34 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64953 You can rebuild turnstiles to be usable by people with strollers or in wheelchairs without station agents. I believe Calgary does. You can rebuild turnstiles to be usable by people with strollers or in wheelchairs without station agents. I believe Calgary does.

]]> By: herenthere http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64951 herenthere Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:07:53 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64951 I think there are already such intercoms...usually rectangular metal faceplate with a button in the middle. Installed on steel columns on platforms. Barely looks like they work though. I think there are already such intercoms…usually rectangular metal faceplate with a button in the middle. Installed on steel columns on platforms. Barely looks like they work though.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64898 Benjamin Kabak Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:57:59 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64898 No one is advocating for killing the station agents. This is just a far better way to insure safety considering the legal ruling that station agents have no obligation to help and that platforms are problematic safety-wise even in stations with full-time agents. After all, the agents don't leave the fare-control area. They can't see what's happening on platforms that can stretch as far as 2.5 city blocks away from the token booth. No one is advocating for killing the station agents. This is just a far better way to insure safety considering the legal ruling that station agents have no obligation to help and that platforms are problematic safety-wise even in stations with full-time agents.

After all, the agents don’t leave the fare-control area. They can’t see what’s happening on platforms that can stretch as far as 2.5 city blocks away from the token booth.

]]> By: Grrrumpy Miner http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64897 Grrrumpy Miner Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:55:39 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64897 What about the 3500 or so station agents who do actually work?Where do you put them? If you kill all station agents,that would be a disservice to every single person in the city whether they are Seniors,people who have disabilities,tourists,people who don't ride everyday,people with bikes,strollers,shopping carts,bulk items,even heavy set people who can't fit through the high wheel.....I think I covered 7,999,997 of the 8 million people in the naked city except for the anal yuppies who do not give a rats ass as long as they have a job,$30 million in their 401K and hope the MTA lowers the fares. What about the 3500 or so station agents who do actually work?Where do you put them? If you kill all station agents,that would be a disservice to every single person in the city whether they are Seniors,people who have disabilities,tourists,people who don’t ride everyday,people with bikes,strollers,shopping carts,bulk items,even heavy set people who can’t fit through the high wheel…..I think I covered 7,999,997 of the 8 million people in the naked city except for the anal yuppies who do not give a rats ass as long as they have a job,$30 million in their 401K and hope the MTA lowers the fares.

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64893 Benjamin Kabak Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:33:40 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64893 A while. There's no denying that. It's certainly not an immediate replacement for station agents, and it's probably a technology that should have been installed a long time ago. A while. There’s no denying that. It’s certainly not an immediate replacement for station agents, and it’s probably a technology that should have been installed a long time ago.

]]> By: Hoosac http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64892 Hoosac Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:31:25 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64892 I think you have to read between the lines of this announcement. Intercoms will be installed "in all future station rehabilitation projects." How often do stations get rehabilitated? How long will it take to get intercoms installed in all 400-plus stations of the system? I think you have to read between the lines of this announcement. Intercoms will be installed “in all future station rehabilitation projects.” How often do stations get rehabilitated? How long will it take to get intercoms installed in all 400-plus stations of the system?

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64891 Benjamin Kabak Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:48:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64891 Inevitably, though, someone will prank the token booth/NYC Transit control center. There has to be some level of control, but I do like this idea. Inevitably, though, someone will prank the token booth/NYC Transit control center. There has to be some level of control, but I do like this idea.

]]> By: John http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64890 John Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:46:33 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64890 It's a good point, but I would think even hitting the button and not saying anything would trigger some sort of action. Just like if you call 911 and hang up, they have to send a car over. It’s a good point, but I would think even hitting the button and not saying anything would trigger some sort of action. Just like if you call 911 and hang up, they have to send a car over.

]]> By: Christopher http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/09/23/platform-intercomes-to-improve-station-safety/#comment-64889 Christopher Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:33:47 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=3903#comment-64889 This is a great idea, but I worry about accessibility. I'm deaf and although I was born oral (and so can speak) a lot of my fellow deaf were not. Also, I would be unable to have an actual conversation with anyone over an intercom, it would just be me sort of yelling. Which is better than nothing, I suppose. But would this meet accessibility requirements? This is a great idea, but I worry about accessibility. I’m deaf and although I was born oral (and so can speak) a lot of my fellow deaf were not. Also, I would be unable to have an actual conversation with anyone over an intercom, it would just be me sort of yelling. Which is better than nothing, I suppose. But would this meet accessibility requirements?

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