Comments on: Musings on the lack of SAS express tracks

By: Jaquan

Jaquan — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:47:42 +0000

I think due to the area placement of the stations the SAS subway’s mezzanine will kind of be like the IND (letter trains) subways. Most IND mezzanines travel the length of the whole station, this lead to many robberies in the 70′s and 80′s and when most of these stations are being renovated the mezzanine is often shorten with stairways been either blocked or cut.I see that in the renders that SAS mezzanines looks like a modern version of the IND’s minis the hundreds of colored pillars holding the street street above. I hope that even though the station placement will try to solve the problem of express tracks that the mta will at least try to solve this problems of mezzanine of huge size that doesn’t properly fit capacity or usage because the IND subway designers didn’t.

By: Jaquan

Jaquan — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:02:24 +0000

Thats because the MTA’s signel system is extremely outdated

By: Jaquan

Jaquan — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:42:32 +0000

Honestly the 16 stations for the SAS to me are fine but I wanted express train service to slash the number of stations in half for example:

125-86 st,
86-72st
72-42st
42st-14th st
14th- well after 14 street the distances are pretty long so i doubt a 4 track service will be needed here except for capacity

By: Jaquan

Jaquan — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:32:40 +0000

The only reason that they are unused is that the mta most likely couldn’t afford to run service on them or they choose not to. The Second Ave Subway should in my opinion have at least a third track because breakups happen and maintenance will need to be done. If you need an example of how second ave train service will be just look at the archer ave subway which is served by the E J and Z TRAINS (upper level) .Its the closet thing to a modern subway station we have in nyc.The service is decent, but if the mta could build a second level for to two express tracks New Yorkers could get what they have been waiting.

By: Woody

Woody — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:39:15 +0000

Alon, I’ve been thinking it over. I actually could tolerate buses crossing at 72nd as part of a wave of bus improvements and car disimprovements. Like, close Central Park and Prospect Park to cars 24/2/365. Put dedicated express bus lanes on the West Side Hwy/Henry Hudson parkway whatever you call it, to speed buses out of the city toward Westchester and points north. Install more real bike lanes to reduce traffic lanes.

How about a bonus: Enforce noise ordinance and ‘no honking’ regulations to turn Manhattan into a “quiet park”.

By: Kai

Kai — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:08:19 +0000

And let’s not forget the elderly or handicapped passengers, for whom extra walking is much more difficult than it is for the young and strong.

At least there will be no stairs to climb.

By: Benjamin Kabak

Benjamin Kabak — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:21:19 +0000

That was the point!

By: petey

petey — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:19:32 +0000

“unnecessarily redundant”
why, that’s repetitious!
[/pedant, schoolteacher]

By: Woody

Woody — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:17:57 +0000

You’re right again. Nowadays the only part of Broadway that I really think about is where they have narrowed it or closed it — from 59th St down, down, down, with more narrowing and closings toward the Bowery to be hoped for.

By: john b

john b — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:59:05 +0000

one thing to keep in mind too is that the trains are almost two blocks long now. so the stop may be called 72st but the trains will reach from 71st to 73rd so maybe instead of an intermediate stop there should just be entry points at the beginning, middle and end of the train for all stations. then you close that 8 block gap to 6.