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	<title>Comments on: East Side Select Bus Service plans coming into view</title>
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		<title>By: DivTen</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/13/east-side-select-bus-service-plans-coming-into-view/#comment-74357</link>
		<dc:creator>DivTen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not perfect, it will be significantly faster than current service, if the Bx12 SBS is any indication. A physically separated bus lane would be best but just because you cant get everything doesn&#039;t mean its a total waste. From taking the Bx12 the biggest time savings is by far from off board fare collection not the bus lane. Especially when the bus with 3 doors comes. It gets in and out of stations more like a subway than a bus. Just don&#039;t run for the bus and expect for them to wait for you to pay at the machines..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not perfect, it will be significantly faster than current service, if the Bx12 SBS is any indication. A physically separated bus lane would be best but just because you cant get everything doesn&#8217;t mean its a total waste. From taking the Bx12 the biggest time savings is by far from off board fare collection not the bus lane. Especially when the bus with 3 doors comes. It gets in and out of stations more like a subway than a bus. Just don&#8217;t run for the bus and expect for them to wait for you to pay at the machines..</p>
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		<title>By: Politicians call for separated bus lanes along 1st and 2nd Aves. :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politicians call for separated bus lanes along 1st and 2nd Aves. :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bus Service, the New York City modification of a bus rapid transit plan. Last month, the two sides unveiled the plans for the 1st and 2nd Aves. bus routes, and most transit advocates were dismayed to see that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bus Service, the New York City modification of a bus rapid transit plan. Last month, the two sides unveiled the plans for the 1st and 2nd Aves. bus routes, and most transit advocates were dismayed to see that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Man</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/13/east-side-select-bus-service-plans-coming-into-view/#comment-67037</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Allen Street alignment is favoured more because of its nature. Vehicles move faster on Allen than on Bowery. Bowery tends to have a lot of vehicles travelling up and down the area. Consider the Manhattan Bridge entrance area. That area is a chokepoint itself. 

Even if there are tour buses and new bike lanes, Allen still preserves a lot of free movement for vehicles compared to Bowery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Allen Street alignment is favoured more because of its nature. Vehicles move faster on Allen than on Bowery. Bowery tends to have a lot of vehicles travelling up and down the area. Consider the Manhattan Bridge entrance area. That area is a chokepoint itself. </p>
<p>Even if there are tour buses and new bike lanes, Allen still preserves a lot of free movement for vehicles compared to Bowery.</p>
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		<title>By: DOT &#8216;might&#8217; include separated lanes for East Side SBS :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/13/east-side-select-bus-service-plans-coming-into-view/#comment-66880</link>
		<dc:creator>DOT &#8216;might&#8217; include separated lanes for East Side SBS :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we talked about the MTA/DOT plans for the 1st and 2nd Aves. Select Bus Service routes late last week, it was with dismay that we realized physically separated lanes were not a part of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we talked about the MTA/DOT plans for the 1st and 2nd Aves. Select Bus Service routes late last week, it was with dismay that we realized physically separated lanes were not a part of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but that is the case on all lines. Unless DOT&#039;s prepared to have TWO bus lanes (like Lower Broadway) on 2nd Ave., we&#039;ll have to live with that (although NYC could pass a local ordinance requiring drivers to yield to a merging bus)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but that is the case on all lines. Unless DOT&#8217;s prepared to have TWO bus lanes (like Lower Broadway) on 2nd Ave., we&#8217;ll have to live with that (although NYC could pass a local ordinance requiring drivers to yield to a merging bus)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight. You complain that the government is broke, and then propose tax cuts as a way of making it not broke?

Excuse me, but are you insane?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight. You complain that the government is broke, and then propose tax cuts as a way of making it not broke?</p>
<p>Excuse me, but are you insane?</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/13/east-side-select-bus-service-plans-coming-into-view/#comment-66762</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good way to waste money, MTA and DOT. these buses will go no faster than normal buses. you could, you know, take the time and resources spent on this project and divert them to your agonizingly slow 2nd ave subway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good way to waste money, MTA and DOT. these buses will go no faster than normal buses. you could, you know, take the time and resources spent on this project and divert them to your agonizingly slow 2nd ave subway.</p>
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		<title>By: cmdryknes</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmdryknes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think BRT is a really bad idea, pushed by oil/motor lobbies to keep us dependent on building roads and burning fossil fuel. These busses aren&#039;t going to go any faster then the busses that are already on 2nd avenue. They are still going to bunch up at the bridges. They are still going to get stuck in gridlock. Thanks but no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think BRT is a really bad idea, pushed by oil/motor lobbies to keep us dependent on building roads and burning fossil fuel. These busses aren&#8217;t going to go any faster then the busses that are already on 2nd avenue. They are still going to bunch up at the bridges. They are still going to get stuck in gridlock. Thanks but no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: peter knox</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter knox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that any readers of this site really care about the SAS, but, guess what, very little continues to be done.  Almost no work was done today between 91st and 96th, and I almost never see anything being done in the 80s or 70s.  The MTA has now been working at this thing for 31 months, and they still have not built one inch of the subway.  No way they build a tunnel 30 blocks long and build 4 stations in less than 10 or 15 years.  The project is dead.  So much money wasted, fares and taxes raised, small businesses destroyed, the elderly kept as prisoners in their homes.  And for what?  It is a crime.  But then it is NYC.  And NYC is mad as a hatter.  No more money can come from the government, because the government, pick one, federal, state, city, is broke and is going to stay that way until taxes are cut, etc.  A disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that any readers of this site really care about the SAS, but, guess what, very little continues to be done.  Almost no work was done today between 91st and 96th, and I almost never see anything being done in the 80s or 70s.  The MTA has now been working at this thing for 31 months, and they still have not built one inch of the subway.  No way they build a tunnel 30 blocks long and build 4 stations in less than 10 or 15 years.  The project is dead.  So much money wasted, fares and taxes raised, small businesses destroyed, the elderly kept as prisoners in their homes.  And for what?  It is a crime.  But then it is NYC.  And NYC is mad as a hatter.  No more money can come from the government, because the government, pick one, federal, state, city, is broke and is going to stay that way until taxes are cut, etc.  A disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-board fare collection is part of the plan.

I&#039;m not thrilled with the placement of the bus lane.  Sandwiched between the general traffic lanes and the parking lane, it&#039;s not an exclusive lane at all - anyone heading to or from a parking space has no choice but to pass through it.  Parallel parking can take some time, especially if it&#039;s a tight space or the driver isn&#039;t very experienced, and that whole time, there&#039;s a private car blocking the bus lane (legally, presumably).  And what about one car waiting for another car to pull out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-board fare collection is part of the plan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not thrilled with the placement of the bus lane.  Sandwiched between the general traffic lanes and the parking lane, it&#8217;s not an exclusive lane at all &#8211; anyone heading to or from a parking space has no choice but to pass through it.  Parallel parking can take some time, especially if it&#8217;s a tight space or the driver isn&#8217;t very experienced, and that whole time, there&#8217;s a private car blocking the bus lane (legally, presumably).  And what about one car waiting for another car to pull out?</p>
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