Comments on: A late-night murder on the D train http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/ A New York City Subway Blog Sat, 26 May 2012 04:42:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The way we ride: obliviously :: Second Ave. Sagas http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-99466 The way we ride: obliviously :: Second Ave. Sagas Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:05:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-99466 [...] we treat subway crimes with an aura of detachment and murder with spectacle. In the backs of our minds, we know that people can get robbed, mugged or raped in the subway, but [...] [...] we treat subway crimes with an aura of detachment and murder with spectacle. In the backs of our minds, we know that people can get robbed, mugged or raped in the subway, but [...]

]]> By: How the police responded to a subway murder :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67118 How the police responded to a subway murder :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:19:21 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67118 [...] witnessed 15 murders, up from ten over the first eight months of 1979. Saturday morning’s murder on the D train was just the second such incident of 2009. It’s no wonder, then, that three days later, the [...] [...] witnessed 15 murders, up from ten over the first eight months of 1979. Saturday morning’s murder on the D train was just the second such incident of 2009. It’s no wonder, then, that three days later, the [...]

]]> By: herenthere http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67111 herenthere Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:02:33 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67111 According to the Daily News, the fellow passengers were able to contact the conductor via intercom. The R160 runs on the D now? According to the Daily News, the fellow passengers were able to contact the conductor via intercom. The R160 runs on the D now?

]]> By: herenthere http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67110 herenthere Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:00:15 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67110 Wouldn't that mean that it's because it is not safe if you need that much of a show of force? Wouldn’t that mean that it’s because it is not safe if you need that much of a show of force?

]]> By: herenthere http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67109 herenthere Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:56:08 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67109 Not if he's holding a knife... Not if he’s holding a knife…

]]> By: Eric http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67097 Eric Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:01:02 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67097 Actually no, that was not what I was saying. At the time I was merely pointing out that according the the NYDN both were physical with one another and that it takes two to tango. And just to be extremely clear, a punch to the face by itself does not justify pulling out a knife and stabbing someone and I'm not saying that this was a justified killing. Actually no, that was not what I was saying. At the time I was merely pointing out that according the the NYDN both were physical with one another and that it takes two to tango.

And just to be extremely clear, a punch to the face by itself does not justify pulling out a knife and stabbing someone and I’m not saying that this was a justified killing.

]]> By: Rider lessons from a subway murder :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67077 Rider lessons from a subway murder :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:55 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67077 [...] early Saturday morning, for just the second reported time this year, a man was murdered on New York City Transit property. Although the details remain vague, a 37-year-old Bronx man named [...] [...] early Saturday morning, for just the second reported time this year, a man was murdered on New York City Transit property. Although the details remain vague, a 37-year-old Bronx man named [...]

]]> By: Translation Chicago http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67071 Translation Chicago Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:54:19 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67071 There should be an added security in the area. I was in Asia one time and in their trains are at least three securities roaming inside the train. And in every stop, the security people exchange their posts. Plus before a person can enter the waiting area, securities at the gate checked the belongings of every passenger like that at the airport. There should be an added security in the area. I was in Asia one time and in their trains are at least three securities roaming inside the train. And in every stop, the security people exchange their posts. Plus before a person can enter the waiting area, securities at the gate checked the belongings of every passenger like that at the airport.

]]> By: rhywun http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67069 rhywun Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:52:04 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67069 Me neither. Not everyone is a "hero", nor should they be expected to be. The rational response to seeing a knife-weilding lunatic is to get away. Me neither. Not everyone is a “hero”, nor should they be expected to be. The rational response to seeing a knife-weilding lunatic is to get away.

]]> By: Scott E http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/11/21/a-late-night-murder-on-the-d-train/#comment-67062 Scott E Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:58:09 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4323#comment-67062 I agree with Ellie -- I'll happily get someone's attention, but I doubt I'd throw myself between a knife and a potential victim. (If the potential victim were a young child, however, I might do it. I always find myself keeping a cautious eye on the very young ones... not sure why). What strikes me as odd, though, is we're taught to ride in the first car with the train operator, or the middle car with the conductor, when it's late. Here, the motorman probably didn't have a clue what was happening behind him. Not that I fault him for anything. Either way, this is very disturbing news. Fortunately, the cops were ready when the train got to the station, and the guy didn't go on a rampage when the doors wouldn't open. I agree with Ellie — I’ll happily get someone’s attention, but I doubt I’d throw myself between a knife and a potential victim. (If the potential victim were a young child, however, I might do it. I always find myself keeping a cautious eye on the very young ones… not sure why).

What strikes me as odd, though, is we’re taught to ride in the first car with the train operator, or the middle car with the conductor, when it’s late. Here, the motorman probably didn’t have a clue what was happening behind him. Not that I fault him for anything.

Either way, this is very disturbing news. Fortunately, the cops were ready when the train got to the station, and the guy didn’t go on a rampage when the doors wouldn’t open.

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