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	<title>Comments on: Adjusting to the new hybrid buses</title>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/adjusting-to-the-new-hybrid-buses/#comment-67994</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non-hybrid buses cost $320k apiece. Hybrid buses cost $550k apiece. Operating and maintenance costs are about the same - $350k for 12 years, not including driver salary.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fta.dot.gov/documents/WVU_FTA_LCC_Final_Report_07-23-2007.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the relevant FTA study&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-hybrid buses cost $320k apiece. Hybrid buses cost $550k apiece. Operating and maintenance costs are about the same &#8211; $350k for 12 years, not including driver salary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fta.dot.gov/documents/WVU_FTA_LCC_Final_Report_07-23-2007.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the relevant FTA study</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Aron</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say so. I wouldn&#039;t want the MTA to buy any other kind of buses other than hybrids, and if those are the problems that come with them, so be it. This is relatively new technology, and I&#039;ve yet to see a new technology function perfectly it&#039;s first time up at the plate. 

I&#039;d be interested to know the price tag of a non-hybrid bus, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say so. I wouldn&#8217;t want the MTA to buy any other kind of buses other than hybrids, and if those are the problems that come with them, so be it. This is relatively new technology, and I&#8217;ve yet to see a new technology function perfectly it&#8217;s first time up at the plate. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know the price tag of a non-hybrid bus, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/adjusting-to-the-new-hybrid-buses/#comment-67977</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$500 million for experimental buses the jerk and degrade and spontaneously burst into flames? is that &#039;growing pains&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$500 million for experimental buses the jerk and degrade and spontaneously burst into flames? is that &#8216;growing pains&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerrold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerrold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This matter reminds me of the Grumman bus fiasco, circa 1980 (I don&#039;t remember the exact year).
I do remember, though, that the resulting shortage of buses was so bad that for a time the Transit Authority had to rent a fleet of buses from the Washington, D.C. bus system.
There was a radio program host at that time on WOR-AM who would crack jokes like, &quot;If you get on one of those buses, you wind up in Fairfax, Virginia.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This matter reminds me of the Grumman bus fiasco, circa 1980 (I don&#8217;t remember the exact year).<br />
I do remember, though, that the resulting shortage of buses was so bad that for a time the Transit Authority had to rent a fleet of buses from the Washington, D.C. bus system.<br />
There was a radio program host at that time on WOR-AM who would crack jokes like, &#8220;If you get on one of those buses, you wind up in Fairfax, Virginia.&#8221;</p>
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