Comments on: Avoiding service cuts through stimulus funds or tolls http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/ A New York City Subway Blog Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:24:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The dangerous allure of a quick stimulus fix :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-71052 The dangerous allure of a quick stimulus fix :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:35:10 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-71052 [...] On the one side are the City Council and Gene Russianoff’s Straphangers Campaign who support using stimulus funds to cover the gap. On the other are, for example, the Regional Plan Association and I believe it to be a bad idea. [...] [...] On the one side are the City Council and Gene Russianoff’s Straphangers Campaign who support using stimulus funds to cover the gap. On the other are, for example, the Regional Plan Association and I believe it to be a bad idea. [...]

]]> By: Quinn’s Council proposal: Almost getting it right :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-69339 Quinn’s Council proposal: Almost getting it right :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:56:58 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-69339 [...] other three are, in effect, the Gene Russianoff Plan, and I’ve already voiced my reticence over using capital funds for operating deficits. In a [...] [...] other three are, in effect, the Gene Russianoff Plan, and I’ve already voiced my reticence over using capital funds for operating deficits. In a [...]

]]> By: Gotham Gazette - The Wonkster » Blog Archive » Offsetting Service Cuts with Infrastructure Money http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-68427 Gotham Gazette - The Wonkster » Blog Archive » Offsetting Service Cuts with Infrastructure Money Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:36:17 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-68427 [...] Russianoff from the Straphangers says it is necessary to do this because of “the harm to riders of service cuts in an already [...] [...] Russianoff from the Straphangers says it is necessary to do this because of “the harm to riders of service cuts in an already [...]

]]> By: Against the use of capital funds to cover the gap :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-68391 Against the use of capital funds to cover the gap :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:44:13 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-68391 [...] to an important policy battled emerged. On the one hand were those who supported the so-called Gene Russianoff plan, a call to shift 10 percent of the MTA’s available federal stimulus funds from its capital [...] [...] to an important policy battled emerged. On the one hand were those who supported the so-called Gene Russianoff plan, a call to shift 10 percent of the MTA’s available federal stimulus funds from its capital [...]

]]> By: The mathematics of cutting free student fares :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-68243 The mathematics of cutting free student fares :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:19:14 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-68243 [...] payroll tax short fall is entirely Albany’s fault, and he has, for better or worse, proposed alternate ways the MTA could close its budget gap without cutting too many [...] [...] payroll tax short fall is entirely Albany’s fault, and he has, for better or worse, proposed alternate ways the MTA could close its budget gap without cutting too many [...]

]]> By: Mike Nitabach http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-68123 Mike Nitabach Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:45:51 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-68123 I agree completely about the East River/Harlem River bridges. Why should these automobile transportation services be subsidized at the expense of mass transportation. I also am strongly in favor of congestion pricing coupled with entry tolls for midtown and downtown Manhattan. I agree completely about the East River/Harlem River bridges. Why should these automobile transportation services be subsidized at the expense of mass transportation. I also am strongly in favor of congestion pricing coupled with entry tolls for midtown and downtown Manhattan.

]]> By: Niccolo Machiavelli http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-68020 Niccolo Machiavelli Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:30:26 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-68020 I know I frequently cross swords with Alon but herein we agree sociolinguistically. Socialism is a negative word when it comes to the prevailing popular ideology. That it is, regarding transportaion issues, deplyed much more frequently against public mass transit systems than against the prevailing paradigm in the US, automobile hegemony, simply allows the privatist culture to predominate. I know I frequently cross swords with Alon but herein we agree sociolinguistically. Socialism is a negative word when it comes to the prevailing popular ideology. That it is, regarding transportaion issues, deplyed much more frequently against public mass transit systems than against the prevailing paradigm in the US, automobile hegemony, simply allows the privatist culture to predominate.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-68002 Alon Levy Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:22:38 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-68002 Eric, if you want a country where transportation fares reflect true operating costs, go to Hong Kong. There, everything is accounted for: construction costs, operating costs, pollution externalities, space externalities. If it hadn't been for road socialism, Syosset would be rural. So stop complaining when transportation socialism goes to other people. Eric, if you want a country where transportation fares reflect true operating costs, go to Hong Kong. There, everything is accounted for: construction costs, operating costs, pollution externalities, space externalities.

If it hadn’t been for road socialism, Syosset would be rural. So stop complaining when transportation socialism goes to other people.

]]> By: Report: Doomsday cuts back on but no fare hike :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-67992 Report: Doomsday cuts back on but no fare hike :: Second Ave. Sagas | A New York City Subway Blog Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:02:29 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-67992 [...] watchdogs were quick to bemoan the latest news. Relying on its call to use stimulus funds to cover the budget gap, Gene Russianoff and the Straphangers Campaign came out swinging today: [...] [...] watchdogs were quick to bemoan the latest news. Relying on its call to use stimulus funds to cover the budget gap, Gene Russianoff and the Straphangers Campaign came out swinging today: [...]

]]> By: Eric F. http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/10/avoiding-service-cuts-through-stimulus-funds-or-tolls/#comment-67986 Eric F. Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:15:49 +0000 http://secondavenuesagas.com/?p=4489#comment-67986 The last thing you'd want to do is actually raise the fare to reflect true operating costs. So you need to create more and more wealth transfer schemes to sluice money into the MTA from various other sources. I follow you there. But I don't think you are nearly bold enough. Although tolling the East River Bridges is a good idea, an even better one would be to simply demolish the bridges. This would eliminate maintenance costs for keeping up the bridges and will force people on to the trains. As we all know, trains are what keep the city moving and auto crossings are per se bad, so this solves a ton of problems at a single stroke. Next, we get rid of the airports. Baby steps. The last thing you’d want to do is actually raise the fare to reflect true operating costs. So you need to create more and more wealth transfer schemes to sluice money into the MTA from various other sources. I follow you there. But I don’t think you are nearly bold enough. Although tolling the East River Bridges is a good idea, an even better one would be to simply demolish the bridges. This would eliminate maintenance costs for keeping up the bridges and will force people on to the trains. As we all know, trains are what keep the city moving and auto crossings are per se bad, so this solves a ton of problems at a single stroke. Next, we get rid of the airports. Baby steps.

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