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	<title>Comments on: Succinctly pointing a finger at Albany</title>
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		<title>By: On congestion pricing, service cuts and user fees :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68277</link>
		<dc:creator>On congestion pricing, service cuts and user fees :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a transit-based city — the &#8220;most transit-dependent city in the country,&#8221; as Andrew Albert said — we as a society are better off with more service. (In fact, that is the beauty of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a transit-based city — the &#8220;most transit-dependent city in the country,&#8221; as Andrew Albert said — we as a society are better off with more service. (In fact, that is the beauty of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68236</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been reading this site for years now - keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been reading this site for years now &#8211; keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68203</link>
		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agencies are spun off in hopes of being less susceptible to politics, but of course recent events have shown how effective that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agencies are spun off in hopes of being less susceptible to politics, but of course recent events have shown how effective that is.</p>
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		<title>By: SuchAndSuch</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68202</link>
		<dc:creator>SuchAndSuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that the MTA is actually not a &quot;government&quot; arm per se, and more like a group of political appointees who (like the bosses at OTB) are able to basically freeload &amp; collect their salaries and benefits...and leaving the state &amp; city effectively run the transit system?

And: I just discovered this site thru a link on GAWKER...very interesting, and I&#039;ll definitely be back.  Thanks for putting in the time to create and maintain it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that the MTA is actually not a &#8220;government&#8221; arm per se, and more like a group of political appointees who (like the bosses at OTB) are able to basically freeload &amp; collect their salaries and benefits&#8230;and leaving the state &amp; city effectively run the transit system?</p>
<p>And: I just discovered this site thru a link on GAWKER&#8230;very interesting, and I&#8217;ll definitely be back.  Thanks for putting in the time to create and maintain it!</p>
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		<title>By: zz</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68199</link>
		<dc:creator>zz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A failure of government, yes.  But this has also been a failure of advocacy.  The Straphangers Campaign and other advocates have been doing the public no favors with their utterly unserious approach to dealing with MTA&#039;s festering fiscal crisis.  Other metro regions have a vibrant and effective transit advocacy community, but tragically ours is calcified.

Thank you, Benjamin, for your thoughtful work on these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A failure of government, yes.  But this has also been a failure of advocacy.  The Straphangers Campaign and other advocates have been doing the public no favors with their utterly unserious approach to dealing with MTA&#8217;s festering fiscal crisis.  Other metro regions have a vibrant and effective transit advocacy community, but tragically ours is calcified.</p>
<p>Thank you, Benjamin, for your thoughtful work on these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Nitabach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Nitabach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be very proud of yourself, Benjamin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be very proud of yourself, Benjamin!</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68189</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be clear that this was a failure of democracy.  The state legislatures knew exactly what they were doing, and so far they have succeeded.  The problem is that we&#039;ve gotten a legislature that is so unrepresentative of the people that they can do things like this and still (apparently) get re-elected next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear that this was a failure of democracy.  The state legislatures knew exactly what they were doing, and so far they have succeeded.  The problem is that we&#8217;ve gotten a legislature that is so unrepresentative of the people that they can do things like this and still (apparently) get re-elected next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomás</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomás</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Articles like this one make really great this site, and yes, I absolutely agree with all what you state here.

Congratulations on the great work!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Articles like this one make really great this site, and yes, I absolutely agree with all what you state here.</p>
<p>Congratulations on the great work!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York City Transit recovers about 40% of its total expenses, operating and capital, from fares; the subway recovers 67%, the buses 20-something percent. MNRR recovers 40% as well, LIRR a little under 30%.

And globally, $2.25 is pretty expensive. In Paris, the base fare is €1.60, which in purchasing power terms is $2; with a pay-per-ride it&#039;s €1.16, and an unlimited monthly costs €56.60. In Madrid, the base fare is €1 unless you&#039;re going out into the suburbs. In Tokyo, short and medium-distance trips cost about ¥160-200, i.e. $1.60-2.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York City Transit recovers about 40% of its total expenses, operating and capital, from fares; the subway recovers 67%, the buses 20-something percent. MNRR recovers 40% as well, LIRR a little under 30%.</p>
<p>And globally, $2.25 is pretty expensive. In Paris, the base fare is €1.60, which in purchasing power terms is $2; with a pay-per-ride it&#8217;s €1.16, and an unlimited monthly costs €56.60. In Madrid, the base fare is €1 unless you&#8217;re going out into the suburbs. In Tokyo, short and medium-distance trips cost about ¥160-200, i.e. $1.60-2.00.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/12/14/succinctly-pointing-a-finger-at-albany/#comment-68175</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the MTA doesn&#039;t even recover half their operating expenses from fares alone.  The majority of it is covered with taxes and government funding.

It&#039;s the price we pay for having a low-price transit system.  I don&#039;t know of any other in the world that&#039;s as vast for only $2.25 a ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the MTA doesn&#8217;t even recover half their operating expenses from fares alone.  The majority of it is covered with taxes and government funding.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the price we pay for having a low-price transit system.  I don&#8217;t know of any other in the world that&#8217;s as vast for only $2.25 a ride.</p>
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