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	<title>Comments on: Another day, another know-nothing politician: Peter Vallone, Jr.</title>
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		<title>By: For the V and the W, a final day :: Second Ave. Sagas</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/06/another-day-another-know-nothing-politician-peter-vallone-jr/#comment-83354</link>
		<dc:creator>For the V and the W, a final day :: Second Ave. Sagas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] transit funding. I&#8217;m surprised to see Vallone lend his name and face to this campaign as he hasn&#8217;t been very transit-friendly. Later in the day at 8:15 p.m., Transportation Alternatives will rally in Astoria for better [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] transit funding. I&#8217;m surprised to see Vallone lend his name and face to this campaign as he hasn&#8217;t been very transit-friendly. Later in the day at 8:15 p.m., Transportation Alternatives will rally in Astoria for better [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Ortiz the latest in a long line of ingorant New York reps :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Ortiz the latest in a long line of ingorant New York reps :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he joins a long list of elected representatives — including current city comptroller John Liu, Peter Vallone and Aileen Gunther — who bring up trumped up charges as a way to eschew responsibility over the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he joins a long list of elected representatives — including current city comptroller John Liu, Peter Vallone and Aileen Gunther — who bring up trumped up charges as a way to eschew responsibility over the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Steven. I should try to get some letters published concerning the fact-checking. I don&#039;t think about that, but it&#039;s a great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Steven. I should try to get some letters published concerning the fact-checking. I don&#8217;t think about that, but it&#8217;s a great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, &lt;a href=&quot;http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2010/01/senate-12-exchanging-bad-for-worse.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I took care&lt;/a&gt; of Onorato, Gianaris and Frei-Pearson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, <a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2010/01/senate-12-exchanging-bad-for-worse.html" rel="nofollow">I took care</a> of Onorato, Gianaris and Frei-Pearson.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Higashide</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/06/another-day-another-know-nothing-politician-peter-vallone-jr/#comment-69419</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Higashide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, these are very valuable posts. I would encourage you to spread the message even wider by occasionally writing letters for publication in the newspapers where these officials are quoted. It would be a great way to disseminate your fact-checking efforts to the many folks who still read the &lt;i&gt;Daily News&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Post&lt;/i&gt;, etc. on the subway instead of online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, these are very valuable posts. I would encourage you to spread the message even wider by occasionally writing letters for publication in the newspapers where these officials are quoted. It would be a great way to disseminate your fact-checking efforts to the many folks who still read the <i>Daily News</i>, <i>Post</i>, etc. on the subway instead of online.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I read Vallone&#039;s public statements about arbitration (all of which, by the way, have come &lt;I&gt;after&lt;/I&gt; the budget cuts were announced - never during the actual arbitration process), the more I&#039;m convinced that he&#039;s an attack dog for the TWU.

He said in a letter to Jay Walder that &quot;you lost in arbitration and you lost once again on appeal, and the fault is yours, no one else’s. As a result, school children and my constituents are being forced to pay for your agency’s incompetence.&quot;

That&#039;s right... the agency&#039;s incompetence. Not the union&#039;s selfishness. Based on his statements, he clearly doesn&#039;t think these workers should be granted an 11.3% raise over three years in this economy, but the TWU &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/10/15/2008-10-15_no_money_train_for_transit_worker_deal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;was asking for 4% annual raises&lt;/a&gt; during negotiations prior to arbitration.

This is what baffles me: how does Vallone think that the result of MTA/TWU negotiations would have been any better than the arbitrator&#039;s, especially given the TWU&#039;s willingness to strike at the expiration of the previous contract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read Vallone&#8217;s public statements about arbitration (all of which, by the way, have come <i>after</i> the budget cuts were announced &#8211; never during the actual arbitration process), the more I&#8217;m convinced that he&#8217;s an attack dog for the TWU.</p>
<p>He said in a letter to Jay Walder that &#8220;you lost in arbitration and you lost once again on appeal, and the fault is yours, no one else’s. As a result, school children and my constituents are being forced to pay for your agency’s incompetence.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right&#8230; the agency&#8217;s incompetence. Not the union&#8217;s selfishness. Based on his statements, he clearly doesn&#8217;t think these workers should be granted an 11.3% raise over three years in this economy, but the TWU <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/10/15/2008-10-15_no_money_train_for_transit_worker_deal.html" rel="nofollow">was asking for 4% annual raises</a> during negotiations prior to arbitration.</p>
<p>This is what baffles me: how does Vallone think that the result of MTA/TWU negotiations would have been any better than the arbitrator&#8217;s, especially given the TWU&#8217;s willingness to strike at the expiration of the previous contract?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We took a sound bite out of the newspaper? Funny, that newspaper quote sounds &lt;I&gt;exactly&lt;/I&gt; like this quote &lt;a href=&quot;http://petervallone.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on Vallone&#039;s web site&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“For the MTA to grant generous raises while decimating services is completely irresponsible and inexcusable.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know how that quote can possibly be misinterpreted as anything other than an accusation that the MTA willingly granted raises to employees. That&#039;s a flat-out lie and it was the entire basis for Vallone&#039;s phony protest.

Again, he&#039;s afraid to attack organized labor because it&#039;s where he gets his endorsements and campaign contributions. If your argument is that it&#039;s the MTA&#039;s fault for entering arbitration, why aren&#039;t you also criticizing the TWU bosses for asking for such outrageous raises during a time when the MTA had a $1.2 billion deficit? Oh, right. Because Unions are perfect and never selfish and never do anything wrong. You didn&#039;t take Labor 101, you took Labor Collusion 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We took a sound bite out of the newspaper? Funny, that newspaper quote sounds <i>exactly</i> like this quote <a href="http://petervallone.com/" rel="nofollow">on Vallone&#8217;s web site</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“For the MTA to grant generous raises while decimating services is completely irresponsible and inexcusable.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how that quote can possibly be misinterpreted as anything other than an accusation that the MTA willingly granted raises to employees. That&#8217;s a flat-out lie and it was the entire basis for Vallone&#8217;s phony protest.</p>
<p>Again, he&#8217;s afraid to attack organized labor because it&#8217;s where he gets his endorsements and campaign contributions. If your argument is that it&#8217;s the MTA&#8217;s fault for entering arbitration, why aren&#8217;t you also criticizing the TWU bosses for asking for such outrageous raises during a time when the MTA had a $1.2 billion deficit? Oh, right. Because Unions are perfect and never selfish and never do anything wrong. You didn&#8217;t take Labor 101, you took Labor Collusion 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get Your Facts Straight - Vallone has made public statements saying that the MTA should never have abdicated its responsibility to protect its ridership and sent negotiations to an arbitrator and that it&#039;s not an arbitrator&#039;s job to control spending and protect riders from cuts, its the job of the MTA.  He clearly understands that going to an arbitrator was a decision made by the MTA and they are responsible for the outcome. You and O&#039;leary are the ones who failed labor 101, and common sense 101, by relying on a sound bite taken by a newspaper instead of doing your own research.  As for city funding, why should the city taxpayers pay even more when we already pay 80% of commuter fees but only get 60% back from Albany?   Funding doesn&#039;t equal control, only Albany has that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Your Facts Straight &#8211; Vallone has made public statements saying that the MTA should never have abdicated its responsibility to protect its ridership and sent negotiations to an arbitrator and that it&#8217;s not an arbitrator&#8217;s job to control spending and protect riders from cuts, its the job of the MTA.  He clearly understands that going to an arbitrator was a decision made by the MTA and they are responsible for the outcome. You and O&#8217;leary are the ones who failed labor 101, and common sense 101, by relying on a sound bite taken by a newspaper instead of doing your own research.  As for city funding, why should the city taxpayers pay even more when we already pay 80% of commuter fees but only get 60% back from Albany?   Funding doesn&#8217;t equal control, only Albany has that.</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog New York City &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Streetsblog New York City &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ave Sagas and On Transport Smack Down Peter Vallone&#039;s Lazy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the one-seat ride from Wall Street to Astoria, at least on the way home, when I lived there for 7 years. Why? Because I decided that always getting a seat was more attractive than saving maybe 5 minutes and dealing with the ridiculous crush at 59th &amp; Lex.

Now I live in Bay Ridge and the sight of an even more crowded R between the financial district and 36th Street is going to be quite amusing without the M around any more. Glad I don&#039;t live on that stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the one-seat ride from Wall Street to Astoria, at least on the way home, when I lived there for 7 years. Why? Because I decided that always getting a seat was more attractive than saving maybe 5 minutes and dealing with the ridiculous crush at 59th &amp; Lex.</p>
<p>Now I live in Bay Ridge and the sight of an even more crowded R between the financial district and 36th Street is going to be quite amusing without the M around any more. Glad I don&#8217;t live on that stretch.</p>
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