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		<title>By: A video primer on the emergency brake :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-71664</link>
		<dc:creator>A video primer on the emergency brake :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] break. The dialogue started late last month when we explored how, in case of emergency, riders aren&#8217;t supposed to pull the brake and continued with a look at how the emergency instructions don&#8217;t say when to pull the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] break. The dialogue started late last month when we explored how, in case of emergency, riders aren&#8217;t supposed to pull the brake and continued with a look at how the emergency instructions don&#8217;t say when to pull the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70734</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emergency brake cord dangles, boxless, on many B Division cars - everything older than the R143.  The IRT got boxes around its cords in the late 90&#039;s (even on the redbirds) to deter pranksters from pulling the cord.

As Joe points out, the cord on the newest cars isn&#039;t an actual emergency brake.  A traditional emergency brake cord physically dumps the air out of the brake system, forcing the train to stop.  In the newer cars, a computer decides whether the train should stop (if part of the train is still in the station) or not (if it isn&#039;t).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emergency brake cord dangles, boxless, on many B Division cars &#8211; everything older than the R143.  The IRT got boxes around its cords in the late 90&#8242;s (even on the redbirds) to deter pranksters from pulling the cord.</p>
<p>As Joe points out, the cord on the newest cars isn&#8217;t an actual emergency brake.  A traditional emergency brake cord physically dumps the air out of the brake system, forcing the train to stop.  In the newer cars, a computer decides whether the train should stop (if part of the train is still in the station) or not (if it isn&#8217;t).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70733</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sign says &quot;Emergency Brake&quot; - not &quot;Emergency Thing.&quot;

Do you open the emergency exit door on an airplane in any sort of emergency?  Of course not - most emergencies don&#039;t call for immediate exiting.  So why would you activate an emergency brake if you don&#039;t want to immediately stop the train?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sign says &#8220;Emergency Brake&#8221; &#8211; not &#8220;Emergency Thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you open the emergency exit door on an airplane in any sort of emergency?  Of course not &#8211; most emergencies don&#8217;t call for immediate exiting.  So why would you activate an emergency brake if you don&#8217;t want to immediately stop the train?</p>
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		<title>By: When the signs don&#8217;t say what to do :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70445</link>
		<dc:creator>When the signs don&#8217;t say what to do :: Second Ave. Sagas &#124; A New York City Subway Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Every subway car has an emergency brake, and yet, Transit&#8217;s message has been one of caution. In case of emergency, don&#8217;t pull the emergency brake. In that piece, I discussed a sign each car has up with instructions about emergencies. The sign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Every subway car has an emergency brake, and yet, Transit&#8217;s message has been one of caution. In case of emergency, don&#8217;t pull the emergency brake. In that piece, I discussed a sign each car has up with instructions about emergencies. The sign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott E</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70305</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any statistics on how many legitimate applications of the Emergency Brake have been made over the years?  I support Erc in saying that they should probably be removed.  Amtrak doesn&#039;t have them in passenger-accessible areas.

The only semi-legitimate use I can really think of is if the doors close at the wrong time, separating a parent from a young child (could be a disobedient child, or a parent struggling with a stroller).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any statistics on how many legitimate applications of the Emergency Brake have been made over the years?  I support Erc in saying that they should probably be removed.  Amtrak doesn&#8217;t have them in passenger-accessible areas.</p>
<p>The only semi-legitimate use I can really think of is if the doors close at the wrong time, separating a parent from a young child (could be a disobedient child, or a parent struggling with a stroller).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70301</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the same people who think that they should respond to any emergency aboard a train by pulling the emergencey brake would do the same thing in their car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the same people who think that they should respond to any emergency aboard a train by pulling the emergencey brake would do the same thing in their car.</p>
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		<title>By: nycpat</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70289</link>
		<dc:creator>nycpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The R-62s can move [roll]  with all the doors open if the T/O releases the brakes too early and both he and the C/R space out. I once saw a train move a whole two ft. at 5th ave on the7. I was about to pull the emergency brake when the T/O reapplied enough brake. But normally trains can&#039;t take power with the doors open in passenger service.  I can see a use for the brake- suppose you see someone trapped between the platform and the train on the C/Rs offside, say Bowling Green. What are you going to do call on the intercom? No, pull the brake. These things have been around for over a hundred years. Why are people so stupid and helpless all of a sudden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The R-62s can move [roll]  with all the doors open if the T/O releases the brakes too early and both he and the C/R space out. I once saw a train move a whole two ft. at 5th ave on the7. I was about to pull the emergency brake when the T/O reapplied enough brake. But normally trains can&#8217;t take power with the doors open in passenger service.  I can see a use for the brake- suppose you see someone trapped between the platform and the train on the C/Rs offside, say Bowling Green. What are you going to do call on the intercom? No, pull the brake. These things have been around for over a hundred years. Why are people so stupid and helpless all of a sudden?</p>
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		<title>By: erc</title>
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		<dc:creator>erc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought all trains since the Redbirds can&#039;t move unless the doors are closed, so there could never be a problem of someone being caught in the doors and dragged along by the train. I can&#039;t see any use for the emergency brake at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought all trains since the Redbirds can&#8217;t move unless the doors are closed, so there could never be a problem of someone being caught in the doors and dragged along by the train. I can&#8217;t see any use for the emergency brake at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70275</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why put a sign next to it that says &quot;Emergency Brake&quot;?  That sign should say &quot;Pull when someone is stuck and dragged or about to be dragged by the train.&quot;

I realize that bureaucracies speak an Alice-in-Wonderland  style of English with different meanings for words and everything, but the signs they put up for the general public should be in normal English.  If you put up a sign for normal people saying &quot;Emergency Brake&quot;, people will pull it in, well, emergencies.  That is what the sign says.  If you don&#039;t want people to pull the cord in emergencies, don&#039;t put a sign up saying, &quot;pull this cord in emergencies&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why put a sign next to it that says &#8220;Emergency Brake&#8221;?  That sign should say &#8220;Pull when someone is stuck and dragged or about to be dragged by the train.&#8221;</p>
<p>I realize that bureaucracies speak an Alice-in-Wonderland  style of English with different meanings for words and everything, but the signs they put up for the general public should be in normal English.  If you put up a sign for normal people saying &#8220;Emergency Brake&#8221;, people will pull it in, well, emergencies.  That is what the sign says.  If you don&#8217;t want people to pull the cord in emergencies, don&#8217;t put a sign up saying, &#8220;pull this cord in emergencies&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/01/20/in-case-of-emergency-do-not-pull-the-emergency-brake/#comment-70263</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is what to call it. An &quot;Emergency involving someone trapped by the car brake?&quot; It IS an emergency brake. It&#039;s just not an emergency brake that&#039;s to be used in all emergencies. I&#039;m not sure the best way to briefly state that on a sign.

Personally, I&#039;ve only ridden the subway a few times, and have read the sign accompanying the emergency brake, and found it to be clear. But if someone never bothers to read the instructions? Tough to handle that scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is what to call it. An &#8220;Emergency involving someone trapped by the car brake?&#8221; It IS an emergency brake. It&#8217;s just not an emergency brake that&#8217;s to be used in all emergencies. I&#8217;m not sure the best way to briefly state that on a sign.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve only ridden the subway a few times, and have read the sign accompanying the emergency brake, and found it to be clear. But if someone never bothers to read the instructions? Tough to handle that scenario.</p>
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