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	<title>Comments on: At Fulton St., checking in on the Corbin Building</title>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-74349</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Jackson was especially monstrous; as long as there are monuments to him, there&#039;s really no point in removing hardly anyone else&#039;s name from anything.  :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Jackson was especially monstrous; as long as there are monuments to him, there&#8217;s really no point in removing hardly anyone else&#8217;s name from anything.  :-/</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73957</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. And Calhoun was proactive in defending slavery, and Jackson was proactive in killing Native Americans. Somehow they still get things named after them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. And Calhoun was proactive in defending slavery, and Jackson was proactive in killing Native Americans. Somehow they still get things named after them.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Warshay</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73952</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Warshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I do agree that the building is beautiful and should be preserved.  However, as long as his name is on it, I believe that people should have a more complete view about Austin Corbin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I do agree that the building is beautiful and should be preserved.  However, as long as his name is on it, I believe that people should have a more complete view about Austin Corbin.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Warshay</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73951</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Warshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t categorize Corbin &quot;as yet another anti-Semitic member of the WASP upper class, nothing special.&quot;  He went out of the way to actually found the American Society for the Suppression of the Jews.  He was very proactive in his anti-Semitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t categorize Corbin &#8220;as yet another anti-Semitic member of the WASP upper class, nothing special.&#8221;  He went out of the way to actually found the American Society for the Suppression of the Jews.  He was very proactive in his anti-Semitism.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that&#039;s a separate issue from whether or not the building is preserved. It&#039;s beautiful and historic, regardless of whose name was slapped on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that&#8217;s a separate issue from whether or not the building is preserved. It&#8217;s beautiful and historic, regardless of whose name was slapped on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73901</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not illegal to play him privately, but the Philharmonic never plays him (and whenever someone suggests they do, outrage ensues), and the stores don&#039;t carry his music.

And yes, if someone hates me it&#039;s bad enough. I&#039;m just saying that if that were your standard for naming monuments, you&#039;d have to change most street and building names, and a couple of the Presidents on the currency (Washington was a rich slaveowner, Jackson a genocidal warmonger). Let&#039;s just say that I don&#039;t find the city&#039;s naming buildings after Corbin any more offensive than Columbia&#039;s naming its main library after Butler, who instituted quotas on the number of Jews to be admitted to the university.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not illegal to play him privately, but the Philharmonic never plays him (and whenever someone suggests they do, outrage ensues), and the stores don&#8217;t carry his music.</p>
<p>And yes, if someone hates me it&#8217;s bad enough. I&#8217;m just saying that if that were your standard for naming monuments, you&#8217;d have to change most street and building names, and a couple of the Presidents on the currency (Washington was a rich slaveowner, Jackson a genocidal warmonger). Let&#8217;s just say that I don&#8217;t find the city&#8217;s naming buildings after Corbin any more offensive than Columbia&#8217;s naming its main library after Butler, who instituted quotas on the number of Jews to be admitted to the university.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerrold</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73899</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerrold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If somebody hates the hell out of you, but does not actually want to exterminate you, isn&#039;t THAT bad enough?

By the way, playing Wagner is not illegal in Israel, it&#039;s just almost never done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If somebody hates the hell out of you, but does not actually want to exterminate you, isn&#8217;t THAT bad enough?</p>
<p>By the way, playing Wagner is not illegal in Israel, it&#8217;s just almost never done.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73898</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh. At the time Corbin wrote, nobody wanted to exterminate the Jews. Even the Nazis only settled on the final solution in 1942, and before the Nazis the anti-Semites wanted Jews back in their place, i.e. the same condition as in the Middle Ages. It&#039;s overall the same attitude as that of the segregationists. When you strip that mined quote, the article portrays Corbin as yet another anti-Semitic member of the WASP upper class, nothing special.

Then the article decides that naming a street is an act of deification, and promptly opposes naming anything after anyone who was anti-Semitic (i.e. most important people of that era). It reminds me a lot of the black nationalist opposition to naming anything after anyone who owned slaves - for example, a couple of people wrote several tens of pages&#039; worth of history explaining why Yale shouldn&#039;t be naming things after Calhoun. For some people, symbolism matters more than substance. It&#039;s the same people that ban Wagner in Israel, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh. At the time Corbin wrote, nobody wanted to exterminate the Jews. Even the Nazis only settled on the final solution in 1942, and before the Nazis the anti-Semites wanted Jews back in their place, i.e. the same condition as in the Middle Ages. It&#8217;s overall the same attitude as that of the segregationists. When you strip that mined quote, the article portrays Corbin as yet another anti-Semitic member of the WASP upper class, nothing special.</p>
<p>Then the article decides that naming a street is an act of deification, and promptly opposes naming anything after anyone who was anti-Semitic (i.e. most important people of that era). It reminds me a lot of the black nationalist opposition to naming anything after anyone who owned slaves &#8211; for example, a couple of people wrote several tens of pages&#8217; worth of history explaining why Yale shouldn&#8217;t be naming things after Calhoun. For some people, symbolism matters more than substance. It&#8217;s the same people that ban Wagner in Israel, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Warshay</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73892</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Warshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishpress.com/pageroute.do/20913/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this Jewish Press article&lt;/a&gt;, with emphasis added by me:&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We pledge ourselves to spare no effort to remand [the Jews] to the condition that they were in the Middle Ages, or to &lt;b&gt;exterminate them utterly&lt;/b&gt;,&quot; Corbin and his supporters proclaimed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.jewishpress.com/pageroute.do/20913/" rel="nofollow">this Jewish Press article</a>, with emphasis added by me:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;We pledge ourselves to spare no effort to remand [the Jews] to the condition that they were in the Middle Ages, or to <b>exterminate them utterly</b>,&#8221; Corbin and his supporters proclaimed.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Russell Warshay</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/05/at-fulton-st-checking-in-on-the-corbin-building/#comment-73890</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Warshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln was a white supremacist.  His views also transformed over time, and most people view Lincoln as having redeemed himself.

Corbin, on the other hand, never altered his views.  He may not have &quot;blood on his hands,&quot; hut he did condone the extermination of Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln was a white supremacist.  His views also transformed over time, and most people view Lincoln as having redeemed himself.</p>
<p>Corbin, on the other hand, never altered his views.  He may not have &#8220;blood on his hands,&#8221; hut he did condone the extermination of Jews.</p>
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