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	<title>Comments on: A groundbreaking at Atlantic Yards</title>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/11/a-groundbreaking-at-atlantic-yards/#comment-74456</link>
		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, it&#039;s over. Despite our tax dollars being generously funneled into Ratner&#039;s pocket, there&#039;s still some semblance of &quot;private&quot; enterprise in the mix. Said enterprise will generate higher taxes than the lesser functions which were present on the site before--which is the whole point of this thing. The unholy alliance between politicians and labor which runs this city has won again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, it&#8217;s over. Despite our tax dollars being generously funneled into Ratner&#8217;s pocket, there&#8217;s still some semblance of &#8220;private&#8221; enterprise in the mix. Said enterprise will generate higher taxes than the lesser functions which were present on the site before&#8211;which is the whole point of this thing. The unholy alliance between politicians and labor which runs this city has won again.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott E</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/11/a-groundbreaking-at-atlantic-yards/#comment-74356</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still holding on to a shred of hope that the Nets will stay in New Jersey, and the Barclays Center doesn&#039;t get built.  Hey, they first &quot;broke ground&quot; on the Second Avenue Subway &lt;a href=&quot;http://secondavenuesagas.com/second-ave-subway-history/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in 1972&lt;/a&gt;, and look where it is today.  It&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still holding on to a shred of hope that the Nets will stay in New Jersey, and the Barclays Center doesn&#8217;t get built.  Hey, they first &#8220;broke ground&#8221; on the Second Avenue Subway <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/second-ave-subway-history/" rel="nofollow">in 1972</a>, and look where it is today.  It&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: rhywun</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/11/a-groundbreaking-at-atlantic-yards/#comment-74331</link>
		<dc:creator>rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the MTA has voluntarily allowed itself to get screwed over by Ratner&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, sure, he screwed over the entire city and the MTA is part of that, so.... We have traded a few hundred million poured into Ratner&#039;s pockets for a few thousand temporary construction jobs and a further weakening of what used to be known as &quot;property rights&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the MTA has voluntarily allowed itself to get screwed over by Ratner</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, sure, he screwed over the entire city and the MTA is part of that, so&#8230;. We have traded a few hundred million poured into Ratner&#8217;s pockets for a few thousand temporary construction jobs and a further weakening of what used to be known as &#8220;property rights&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/11/a-groundbreaking-at-atlantic-yards/#comment-74317</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it really the MTA, or the politicians telling the MTA what to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it really the MTA, or the politicians telling the MTA what to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Subutay Musluoglu</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/11/a-groundbreaking-at-atlantic-yards/#comment-74315</link>
		<dc:creator>Subutay Musluoglu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ratner was also let off the hook to upgrade the existing LIRR facilities which will be relocated/reconfigured to make way for the arena.  You know who will have to pay now - the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ratner was also let off the hook to upgrade the existing LIRR facilities which will be relocated/reconfigured to make way for the arena.  You know who will have to pay now &#8211; the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Nesta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real estate deals like this done by the MTA all to often is another of the many reasons they will never EARN the trust of the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real estate deals like this done by the MTA all to often is another of the many reasons they will never EARN the trust of the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Warshay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Warshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I can’t help thinking about how the MTA has voluntarily allowed itself to get screwed over by Ratner at a time when it most needs the money.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

As I see it, the MTA allowed itself to get screwed over &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; it really needed the money by not having an open bidding process.  The deferred payments is just icing on the heavily discounted cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I can’t help thinking about how the MTA has voluntarily allowed itself to get screwed over by Ratner at a time when it most needs the money.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>As I see it, the MTA allowed itself to get screwed over <i>before</i> it really needed the money by not having an open bidding process.  The deferred payments is just icing on the heavily discounted cake.</p>
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