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	<title>Comments on: Report: No pay cuts for MTA admins</title>
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		<title>By: Al D</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/12/report-no-pay-cuts-for-mta-admins/#comment-74578</link>
		<dc:creator>Al D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MTA has layers of managerial fat.  There are useless employees there.  Let&#039;s just say that I am very familiar with certain circumstances there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MTA has layers of managerial fat.  There are useless employees there.  Let&#8217;s just say that I am very familiar with certain circumstances there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/12/report-no-pay-cuts-for-mta-admins/#comment-74476</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are assuming all administrative workers are managers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are assuming all administrative workers are managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/12/report-no-pay-cuts-for-mta-admins/#comment-74475</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think sacking 680 managers should be a sufficient show of good faith.  The TWU leadership, being idiots, probably won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think sacking 680 managers should be a sufficient show of good faith.  The TWU leadership, being idiots, probably won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.... it makes more sense to fire 680 managers (preferably hand-picked as the least useful) than to do an &quot;across-the-board pay cut&quot;.  Those just demoralize people and cause the best ones to leave.  This causes the best ones (the ones who are worth it) to stay and the worst ones to leave.

So the MTA is doing the right thing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;. it makes more sense to fire 680 managers (preferably hand-picked as the least useful) than to do an &#8220;across-the-board pay cut&#8221;.  Those just demoralize people and cause the best ones to leave.  This causes the best ones (the ones who are worth it) to stay and the worst ones to leave.</p>
<p>So the MTA is doing the right thing here.</p>
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		<title>By: An administrator</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/12/report-no-pay-cuts-for-mta-admins/#comment-74459</link>
		<dc:creator>An administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, it would also help if I spelled &quot;administrator&quot; correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, it would also help if I spelled &#8220;administrator&#8221; correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: An adminitrstrator</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/12/report-no-pay-cuts-for-mta-admins/#comment-74454</link>
		<dc:creator>An adminitrstrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon is correct.  Plus, a lot of us aren&#039;t eligible for overtime pay, regardless of how many hours we work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon is correct.  Plus, a lot of us aren&#8217;t eligible for overtime pay, regardless of how many hours we work.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a 10% pay cut at the same time as layoffs would probably not be a wise move.  Even with service cuts, administrative functions probably aren&#039;t reduced much if at all.

The layoffs are presumably coming &lt;i&gt;in place of&lt;/i&gt; the pay cuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a 10% pay cut at the same time as layoffs would probably not be a wise move.  Even with service cuts, administrative functions probably aren&#8217;t reduced much if at all.</p>
<p>The layoffs are presumably coming <i>in place of</i> the pay cuts.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/12/report-no-pay-cuts-for-mta-admins/#comment-74441</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anon&quot; is correct. There have been plenty of years in which unionized employees have gotten raises and managers haven&#039;t, and managers haven&#039;t gotten a raise in at least two years. (By the way, not every non-unionized employee at NYCT is a manager. There are plenty of people in analyst titles and such who are non-represented.)

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anon&#8221; is correct. There have been plenty of years in which unionized employees have gotten raises and managers haven&#8217;t, and managers haven&#8217;t gotten a raise in at least two years. (By the way, not every non-unionized employee at NYCT is a manager. There are plenty of people in analyst titles and such who are non-represented.)</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Nesta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you back up what you are saying?  Whenever the hourly employees get a raise the managers get a little more that is the way it has always worked.  They only go a few years if the union does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you back up what you are saying?  Whenever the hourly employees get a raise the managers get a little more that is the way it has always worked.  They only go a few years if the union does.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *believe* it has been 2+ years for admin since raise was received (well 1 if you count a retroactive raise)and much longer since managers received a raise---yes essentially wages have been frozen.

All the long term talent would leave if 10% went through---to protect their pensions.  It would literally be a brain drain.  Something similar happened in the early 80s when there was a change in the pension and look how the system was then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *believe* it has been 2+ years for admin since raise was received (well 1 if you count a retroactive raise)and much longer since managers received a raise&#8212;yes essentially wages have been frozen.</p>
<p>All the long term talent would leave if 10% went through&#8212;to protect their pensions.  It would literally be a brain drain.  Something similar happened in the early 80s when there was a change in the pension and look how the system was then.</p>
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