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Subway Quiz: Name the colors as the MTA does

by Benjamin Kabak

For the subway literati among us, a quiz: Can you name the colors of the above subway bullets — less the G train — as the MTA describes them? The answers are in invisible text at the end of the post.

As a companion piece to his take on the changing Transit signage, New York Times scribe Michael Grynbaum profiled the MTA’s color schemes this afternoon. He writes of the unique names the MTA gives its subway bullets and of the history as well:

Every shade in the subway color scheme has a secret name, known only to the handful of transit workers who oversee the system’s maps and signs. But on a recent visit to the New York City Transit sign shop in Brooklyn, Off The Rails was offered a glimpse at the palette. The colors, which have stayed static since the map changed to its current design in 1979, are provided by an outside paint supplier for use on the system’s signs. Each shade has its own moniker…

Colors are assigned based on a subway route’s “trunk line” – that is, which avenue it runs along in Manhattan. (This might provide fodder to those who feel the city’s transit service is biased toward Manhattanites.) The recent decision to re-route the M line up Avenue of the Americas, instead of its previous run into southern parts of Brooklyn, is why the route is about to lose its [brown] tint…

Subway colors have shifted over time. The scheme now in place was adapted from the Modernist map by Massimo Vignelli in the early 1970s, an abstract masterpiece that was scrapped because its right angles left riders too confused. Some of Mr. Vignelli’s colors were kept in place, according to Michael Hertz, the designer of the subsequent, less right-angled 1979 map. “We felt there was a familiarity already with dark blue on Eighth Avenue,” Mr. Hertz said in a recent interview.

But Mr. Hertz, whose firm is still in charge of maintaining the transportation authority’s maps, said he was skeptical of a few of his predecessor’s other choices. “His Lex colors were weak,” Mr. Hertz said. “One was a pink, one was a light gray.”

These little idiosyncrasies are what makes the New York City subway system so fascinating to me. In Washington, D.C., the routes were pre-planned and have been saddled with boring names. The red line goes somewhere; the blue lines goes elsewhere; and the green line wanders its way through the District. Even the board game Clue had more compelling names. In New York, though, the mixture of colors, numbers and letters lends the map an air of organization amidst the chaos of a system that emerged from three competing subway companies in the 1940s.

And now for the great color reveal. Highlight the text to read the answers to the quiz and learn about Transit’s own monikers for what we call red, green, purple, blue, gray, yellow and brown. As often happens with the poor, neglected G train, its color merited nary a mention in Grynbaum’s article. Answers: tomato red (1, 2, 3), apple green (4, 5, 6), raspberry (7), vivid blue (A, C, E), bright orange (B, D, F, V), slate gray (L, S), sunflower yellow (N, Q, R, W) and terra cotta brown (J, M, Z)

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23 comments

JP May 10, 2010 - 7:04 pm

I suppose the shuttle is “back in black”?

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JP May 10, 2010 - 7:06 pm

oh no! when did they change it from black to grey?

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Rhywun May 10, 2010 - 7:09 pm

“This might provide fodder to those who feel the city’s transit service is biased toward Manhattanites.”

*Sigh*. I suppose it wouldn’t be a NYT article without the insertion of some brain-dead class politics.

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Kid Twist May 11, 2010 - 9:13 am

+1

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Andy May 10, 2010 - 7:48 pm

I always thought the shuttles were a darker grey than the Canarsie line. Are they really the same color and if so why?

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Alon Levy May 10, 2010 - 9:24 pm

They don’t look the same color to me, either.

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Andy May 10, 2010 - 9:59 pm

Now that I look at the MTA website they DO look the same color. But at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....menclature they both look different and are labeled differently. It never made sense that they would have the shuttles be the same color in the first place. There are plenty other colors to use like black, dark maroon, light blue, pink, or even white.

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Rhywun May 11, 2010 - 12:08 am

That’s GOT to be a recent change. In my mind the shuttles were always black (or “dark gray” if they insist).

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Scott E May 11, 2010 - 7:41 am

Wikipedia is not an authority in any sense, but if you look at the subway MAP (even online), you can see the difference…

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JPN May 11, 2010 - 4:43 pm

True, Wikipedia has to rely on principles such as reliable sourcing in order to be legitimate. There are some high-quality Wikipedia articles out there, but none on the NY transit system yet. I have not seen any journalistic articles on this topic of the subway color schemes, so I was happy when this NY Times [blog post] came out.

JPN May 11, 2010 - 11:52 pm

If the shuttle color was black, then the bullet would have no contrast with station signage.

That said, the MTA is quite inconsistent with their shuttle colors. Look at three choices:

* MTA home page and subway schedules page: the L and S are the same color
* S Shuttle “disambiguation page” (a frequent Wikipedia term): the S is black
* L train PDF schedule and 42nd Street shuttle PDF schedule (and the other two): clearly the L and S are different shades of grey and the S is not black

Sorry to be nitpicky with all of this, but I thought of this while riding this evening.

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pdm May 11, 2010 - 9:01 am

All of the transit blogs are running with this color story as if it some super secret, ultra creative inside code invented by the MTA.

If you do a google search for these color names, they’re just the stock names of vinyl adhesive supplied by the company 3M.

What’s so secret and/or clever about that?

Btw, according to 3M, the G-line would be “Apple Green.”

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MTA's Secret Color Lair May 11, 2010 - 10:32 am

Ahh, you’re assuming that 3M didn’t get its colors from the MTA!

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Conner May 11, 2010 - 10:34 am

And the second avenue “T” will be named “Teal”, which is kind of boring, as far as names go.

If they lighten it a little, it will be come “Blue Bird”, which is a bit better.

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Kevin May 11, 2010 - 12:36 pm

Of course what sucks is with the new trains running now, we never see these colors on them since they’re all running with red LED signage. would love to see that change . . . .

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Andy May 11, 2010 - 2:24 pm

Actually the colors ARE shown at least within the new cars. The colored bullet appears on the video screens adjacent to the FIND strip maps.

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Edward May 11, 2010 - 8:37 pm

IRT, BMT, IND. Local or express, uptown or downtown, and final destination. That’s all I need to know, and something I try to impart on friends/tourists.

Had a friend who recently moved to NYC wait for over an hour for a “6” train at the local track at 59th St. It never came, but a bunch of “4” trains went by on the local track. I asked him why he just didn’t get on the “4” since it was on the local track and, by extension, making local stops. He said he didn’t know “4” trains could do that! If it’s on the IRT Lex Ave line and it’s on the local track, it’s a local, end of story.

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Evan May 12, 2010 - 10:48 am

I try so hard to impart that to my friends as well. It doesn’t always work. I think it would be sorta common sense…don’t you think?

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Andy May 12, 2010 - 11:36 am

That’s a simplification and not really advise you should be giving to people. He should have listened for announcements. Just because a 4 arrives on the express track at 59th doesn’t mean it will make all local stops. There are plenty of switches between the express and local tracks and there could be a blockage just north of 59th street on the express tracks which was forcing 4 trains to platform at the local track. The 4 could just as easily get back to the express tracks south of 59th and zoom right past his stop.

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Alon Levy May 12, 2010 - 1:46 pm

Actually, there are no switches between the vicinity of GCT and the vicinity of 125th. However, knowing that would require you to look at a track map or know from experience that the Lex line runs on two levels between GCT and 125th, and the average casual user does not know that.

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Andy May 12, 2010 - 3:37 pm

That still doesn’t matter as there are certainly track switches south of GCT. Edward stated, “If it’s on the IRT Lex Ave line and it’s on the local track, it’s a local, end of story.” The fact is that most certainly ISN’T the end of the story. Heck, even 6 trains skip Astor Place in the evening rush and there have been plenty of G.O.’s on the weekends where the 4 or 5 platform at the local track at Union Square but go express at another point during the route.

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Anthony May 12, 2010 - 1:53 pm

the only (S)that was black on signage was the Grand st shuttle in 2004.

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mike hertz May 13, 2010 - 1:58 pm

Great article:
A minor correction. The current Pantone 286 (ultramarine-ish)of the 8th Av lines used to be 300 (cobalt-ish). It was changed in the 80s to conform to a new MTA ‘M’ logo by the MTA’s PR firm at the time (Siegel & Gale, maybe).

Mike Hertz

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