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		<title>Comment on On the MTA: What the people think by http://www.skimovie.com</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/03/04/on-the-mta-what-the-people-think/#comment-356964</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello superb blog! Does running a blog like this take a great deal of work?
I&#039;ve virtually no knowledge of programming however I had been hoping to start my own blog in the near future. Anyways, should you have any ideas or techniques for new blog owners please share. I know this is off subject however I simply needed to ask. Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello superb blog! Does running a blog like this take a great deal of work?<br />
I&#8217;ve virtually no knowledge of programming however I had been hoping to start my own blog in the near future. Anyways, should you have any ideas or techniques for new blog owners please share. I know this is off subject however I simply needed to ask. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on L outage headlines weekend work impacting 12 trains by Jerrold</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/24/l-outage-headlines-weekend-work-impacting-12-trains/#comment-356939</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerrold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s time for a nice, relaxing three-day weather.&quot;

Must have been a Freudian slip, huh?
Didn&#039;t you mean &quot;three-day WEEKEND&quot;?

This weather looks like it should be a Christmas weekend!
(But then people would be complaining about no snow.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s time for a nice, relaxing three-day weather.&#8221;</p>
<p>Must have been a Freudian slip, huh?<br />
Didn&#8217;t you mean &#8220;three-day WEEKEND&#8221;?</p>
<p>This weather looks like it should be a Christmas weekend!<br />
(But then people would be complaining about no snow.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transit-raider and former Gov. Paterson named to MTA Board by Once more unto the Paterson breach :: Second Ave. Sagas</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2012/04/23/transit-raider-and-former-gov-paterson-named-to-mta-board/#comment-356931</link>
		<dc:creator>Once more unto the Paterson breach :: Second Ave. Sagas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to the MTA. I realize I&#8217;ve already questioned his credentials, but with the advocacy groups praising his appointment, someone has to cast a critical eye on this move. I firmly believe it was not a wise one for the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the MTA. I realize I&#8217;ve already questioned his credentials, but with the advocacy groups praising his appointment, someone has to cast a critical eye on this move. I firmly believe it was not a wise one for the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Candidate Weiner&#8217;s lackluster transportation plan by Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/22/on-candidate-weiners-lackluster-transportation-plan/#comment-356900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bronx is behind the other boroughs in safe and convenient access to the waterfront. What point ferries if they are impossible to get to on foot or mass transit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bronx is behind the other boroughs in safe and convenient access to the waterfront. What point ferries if they are impossible to get to on foot or mass transit?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On planning and estimating Sandy relief costs by Chris C</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/23/on-planning-and-estimating-sandy-relief-costs/#comment-356899</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no idea if the MTA costs estimated are correct or not but I&#039;d say they have a better idea than a journalist. Now if she has an additional qualification as a civil engineer then I might believe her.

She writes

&quot;But the last time the governor’s office announced a concrete figure, back in March, it pegged “initial work” at replacing the washed-out tracks at $17.9 million.&quot;

Now here I believe she is confusing the initial costs  with the cost of the whole project.

From what I have read elsewhere (prob-bly on here) the initial costs were simply for clearing all of the debris from the route - some 3,000 tons - including 40 boats as per http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/TheDamagefromHurricanSandy_11_08_12.htm

The costs of the replacement tracks, signals, 3rd rail, track ballast etc etc will be in the hundreds of millions rather than the low tens.

She herself reports that the steel sea wall they have installed is costing $18m.

So is she seriously suggesting that the scope of works listed here
http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/RebuildingRockawaysAfterHurricanSandy.htm

is costing less than $20m ???

I fully admit I have no idea on what the real costs are, nor am I an engineer so can&#039;t give an estimate, are but I would trust the MTA  costings rather than hers. And I&#039;m sure that the Feds would have sent the MTA back to their calculators with a flea in their ears if they thought they were padding the costs unnecessarily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea if the MTA costs estimated are correct or not but I&#8217;d say they have a better idea than a journalist. Now if she has an additional qualification as a civil engineer then I might believe her.</p>
<p>She writes</p>
<p>&#8220;But the last time the governor’s office announced a concrete figure, back in March, it pegged “initial work” at replacing the washed-out tracks at $17.9 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now here I believe she is confusing the initial costs  with the cost of the whole project.</p>
<p>From what I have read elsewhere (prob-bly on here) the initial costs were simply for clearing all of the debris from the route &#8211; some 3,000 tons &#8211; including 40 boats as per <a href="http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/TheDamagefromHurricanSandy_11_08_12.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mta.info/nyct/servi....._08_12.htm</a></p>
<p>The costs of the replacement tracks, signals, 3rd rail, track ballast etc etc will be in the hundreds of millions rather than the low tens.</p>
<p>She herself reports that the steel sea wall they have installed is costing $18m.</p>
<p>So is she seriously suggesting that the scope of works listed here<br />
<a href="http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/RebuildingRockawaysAfterHurricanSandy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mta.info/nyct/servi.....nSandy.htm</a></p>
<p>is costing less than $20m ???</p>
<p>I fully admit I have no idea on what the real costs are, nor am I an engineer so can&#8217;t give an estimate, are but I would trust the MTA  costings rather than hers. And I&#8217;m sure that the Feds would have sent the MTA back to their calculators with a flea in their ears if they thought they were padding the costs unnecessarily.</p>
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		<title>Comment on L outage headlines weekend work impacting 12 trains by D in Bushwick</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/24/l-outage-headlines-weekend-work-impacting-12-trains/#comment-356800</link>
		<dc:creator>D in Bushwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 02:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t suppose they&#039;ll replace the L Train water-logged ties that have turned the East River tunnel into a Six Flags roller coaster...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t suppose they&#8217;ll replace the L Train water-logged ties that have turned the East River tunnel into a Six Flags roller coaster&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A gift for the Garden and Penn Station&#8217;s future by johndmuller</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/21/a-gift-for-the-garden-and-penn-stations-future/#comment-356788</link>
		<dc:creator>johndmuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine that one builds an (attractive) overpass raising a few blocks of 8th Ave. - between the Post Office and MSG - some 50 feet or so.  Then we could rip up the street and create an atrium-like enclosure over the cross-section of platforms and tracks that were exposed. 

There would be some new space available for practical elements such as passenger circulation and track access, perhaps resembling the photo, and welcome natural light and some relief from the claustrophobia.  If some artistry were applied to the bridging and atrium design, the final result might even be suitably pleasing to the eye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine that one builds an (attractive) overpass raising a few blocks of 8th Ave. &#8211; between the Post Office and MSG &#8211; some 50 feet or so.  Then we could rip up the street and create an atrium-like enclosure over the cross-section of platforms and tracks that were exposed. </p>
<p>There would be some new space available for practical elements such as passenger circulation and track access, perhaps resembling the photo, and welcome natural light and some relief from the claustrophobia.  If some artistry were applied to the bridging and atrium design, the final result might even be suitably pleasing to the eye.</p>
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		<title>Comment on L outage headlines weekend work impacting 12 trains by Theorem Ox</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/24/l-outage-headlines-weekend-work-impacting-12-trains/#comment-356784</link>
		<dc:creator>Theorem Ox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the weather isn&#039;t so hot. But forget about the weather. It&#039;ll be lovely! Enjoy the three day weekend!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the weather isn&#8217;t so hot. But forget about the weather. It&#8217;ll be lovely! Enjoy the three day weekend!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On planning and estimating Sandy relief costs by al</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/23/on-planning-and-estimating-sandy-relief-costs/#comment-356674</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is also the resistance to designs and systems that reduce complexity and construction time.  Having tunnels wide enough for the train and station platform eliminates the need for caverns.  It also allows for layup tracks between stations.  Staged linear assembly systems take the idea of factory assembly lines and flip it so the work teams move with the work front.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the resistance to designs and systems that reduce complexity and construction time.  Having tunnels wide enough for the train and station platform eliminates the need for caverns.  It also allows for layup tracks between stations.  Staged linear assembly systems take the idea of factory assembly lines and flip it so the work teams move with the work front.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A gift for the Garden and Penn Station&#8217;s future by majortom1981</title>
		<link>http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/05/21/a-gift-for-the-garden-and-penn-stations-future/#comment-356666</link>
		<dc:creator>majortom1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 13:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think its a good idea to look at this realistically Give MSG a 15 year permit and have them look into ideas to improve Penn station first like the article stated. 

Who would know better on what is required to take columns away while keep MSG standing better then the owners of MSG.

You do not want to do anything huge till east side , grand central project is done though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a good idea to look at this realistically Give MSG a 15 year permit and have them look into ideas to improve Penn station first like the article stated. </p>
<p>Who would know better on what is required to take columns away while keep MSG standing better then the owners of MSG.</p>
<p>You do not want to do anything huge till east side , grand central project is done though.</p>
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