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Horodniceanu: 7 line extension may be delayed until early 2014

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If all goes according to plan, the 7 line extension to the Far West Side is set to enter revenue service in 23 months, long before the Hudson Yards development sees the light of day. Yet, as with many MTA construction projects, all does not often go according to plan, and the extension that was once promised as part of a 2012 Olympics bid may not be ready until early 2014, MTA Capital Construction chief Michael Horodniceanu said yesterday.

As amNew York reports, Horodniceanu spoke at yesterday’s MTA Board committee meetings and explained that a few undisclosed problems may delay the project two or three months into 2014. Instead of being revenue-ready by December 2013, the project could be ready only for testing by then. The full extent of the delays will be revealed at next month’s meeting, but Horodniceanu did promise that the project’s funding partner “will ride a train” to Hudson Yards.

For the MTA, these delays are old hat even as Horodniceanu has vowed to keep the megaprojects on target. For what it’s worth, though, the 7 line extension, despite this delay, is still under budget by “tens of millions” of dollars. It’s also short a station, but that is a well-beaten dead horse at this point.

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25 responses to “Horodniceanu: 7 line extension may be delayed until early 2014”

  1. Nx100

    Could those “unspecified” delays be Gov. Cuomo wanting to ensure that he has a ribbon-cutting without Mayor Bloomberg, whose term ends on 12/31/1213?

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    1. Nanette

      Can’t wait for Bloomie to be gone!

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      1. Bolwerk

        I’m kind of nervous about Bloomberg being replaced. I can see plenty of problems with him, including some that would make me never, ever vote for him. But on transport and environmental issues, he’s moderately okay, at least relatively speaking, and it’s a safe bet that the Democrat who will probably replace him will be more akin to Anthony Weiner – without the image problem – or John Liu.

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        1. Hank

          Agreed. I’ve come full-circle on Bloomberg, particurly when I see the nightmarish incarnations of David Dinkins (Christie Quinn) or Rod Blagovitch (John Liu) jockeying to replace him.

          NYC depends on being the financial and cultural capital of the world. We need a mayor who understands that and is willing to support the policies and infrastructure (read: Transit and Cops) to support that.

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    2. Jerrold

      If he doesn’t decide to buy himself a fourth term, just like he bought himself a third term. I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past a politician who’s in the top 1% OF the top 1%.

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      1. Alon Levy

        He won’t be able to buy himself a fourth term. He could barely buy himself a third term – he won by 5 points, against a sacrificial lamb. If Quinn and Weiner hadn’t been scared of his money and hadn’t pulled out, whichever of them won the primary would probably have been mayor right now.

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    3. Jerrold

      It’s clear enough what you MEANT to say, but the date you mentioned happened approx. 798 years ago!

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  2. Ramiro

    I find this strange, especially when I thought that this particular project was ahead of schedule.

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  3. SEAN

    Any chance that the 7 extention is being delayed because NYC didn’t win the olympic bid?

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  4. John Jacobs

    Hope he does have a ribbon cutting with out michael snake oil skip a station at 10th ave salesman bloomberg.

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  5. Bruce M

    Wish the delay was due to a sudden change of heart about opening a station at 10th & 41st!

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  6. Kevin Walsh

    So we’re building an extension to a convention center Cuomo wants gone, or a new neighborhood that will never happen or won’t happen for decades.

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    1. Jerrold

      That’s right! It would have made more sense to do ONLY the 10th Ave./41st St. station, instead of only the other one. That way, we would all be saying NOW that the 11th Ave./34th St. station might not be necessary after all, given that the Javits Center’s days are numbered, and so maybe it’s just as well that they did not build it.

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    2. pete

      ALL of NYCs subways were built through cornfields. Build it and people will come.

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      1. Bolwerk

        It’s true that some New York subways were built on completely undeveloped land, but what is regarded as the first “subway” was built through what was already some of the densest urban land use in human history. Manhattan’s population peaked in 1915, IIRC, at somewhere north of 2 million. It’s at about 1.6M today.

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        1. Hank

          and tore up streets for months at a time, had no environmental controls, were not ADA compliant, and cost 7 lives / mile.
          this is an apples and oranges debate

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        2. Tsuyoshi

          The first subway went all the way up to 145th and Broadway, though. Almost all of the buildings in that area today were built shortly after the subway opened.

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          1. Alon Levy

            The UWS had a fair amount of development, most of it along 9th Avenue, but even on Broadway, there were buildings at some of the main street corners. Columbia had already relocated to Morningside Heights.

            And the city was growing at much higher rates than today, so expecting development to catch up with the subway was logical. The subway planners actually underestimated urban growth – they thought they’d be able to accommodate detached single-family houses on the land opened up, rather than six-story apartment buildings.

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            1. Bolwerk

              Obviously the growth rates of the industrial revolution are unachievable today, but how long to do you suppose it would take to fill an additional 100,000 units of housing at market prices? Given where prices are even in bleh neighborhoods, I would guess not long.

              My impression is everything from zoning to parking to anti-transit policies conspires against discovering the answer. Either way, to some extent we constrain ourselves growth-wise, for better or for worse.

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      2. Larry Littlefield

        Right. The Far West Side will be developed, eventually.

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  7. Bill Reese

    But what of the New York Cosmos, a proposed Major League Soccer expansion team who believe they can build a “soccer-specific stadium on the West Side of Manhattan.”

    They’ll extend the 7 to Manchester before that ever happens.

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    1. Alon Levy

      Let them pay for their own infrastructure, then. The city needs to stop subsidizing sports stadiums, like, six years ago.

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    2. Bolwerk

      Why even bother? Soccer will never catch on in any country that doesn’t pour all its impotent nationalist fervor into it. That’s impossible in the United States, even New York.

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